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A Discovery of Witches by Deborah Harkness
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it was ok
bookshelves: fiction, supernatural-creatures, my-book, brain-candy, disappointing

This is an odd book. Now that I have finished reading it, I'm not sure why I was so enamored of it. With so much discussion of spells and enchantment, I wouldn't be surprised if the book put a spell on me. Despite overall enjoying the book, there are still lots of things about it that irritated me. First, the author needed a better editor. I am finding more often that books surrounded by a certain amount of hype are not well-edited. I don't know if the editors think that every word the author writes is gold or if editors are timid, but in either case they aren't doing their job. Much of this book could have chopped out and the story tightened up. There are too many extraneous details that weigh down the plot (and what exactly the plot is is also a good question). I think the author, in order to differentiate her witch/vampire/supernatural book from all the other supernatural books on the shelves, threw in everything, including the kitchen sink, into her novel. It's exhausting stumbling around the pages trying to figure out what the plot is. I'm going to try not being too specific because even though nothing really happens in this novel (really, nothing does), there is information that shouldn't be divulged until you read the novel. Harkness has several plot lines going: the mysterious Ashmole 782 manuscript, the forbidden love affair between Diana the
reluctant witch and Matthew the 1,000 + years old vamp, the mysterious death of her parents, the possible extinction of the supernatural beings, the Congregation wanting to know the extent of Diana's power, tracing Diana's DNA, and the threat of a witch/vamp war. It's all a little crazy.

This book is some kind of pseudo-science, pseudo-historical novel what with all the science and history. The excessive alchemical details get annoying, as does the DNA discussions (and you'd better know what mtDNA is because I don't think the book does a good job explaining it. Luckily, I knew). However, unlike the alchemy stuff (which I didn't see the point of as it related to the storylines), at least the DNA information is related to the plot(s) of the book. The romance is fairly interesting and intense at first, but it quickly peters out into some of kind of tame, boring, lovey-dovey PG-rated sappy mess. It's not that I need pornographic details, but the author kept telling me how much they loved each other and how intense their passion was, but I never really felt it. Matthew, as a scary vampire, is a huge disappointment to me. I'm sorry, but you cannot have this vampire doing yoga and talking DNA with new-age geeky precision and then have me believe that he is all that scary. Nope, just doesn't work. Diana is also a disappointment. She's extremely annoying. She talks about how she wants to be a strong, independent woman, but in reality she is the wimpiest, most annoying witch ever. She won't use her witchy powers (which, to give the author some credit, I understand why she had this attitude), but when it comes time for her to protect herself, she wimps out, cowers, faints, and in rushes Matthew to save her AGAIN. Give me a break. The book is basically just a description of food, wine, her "stretchy black pants" and all the places Matthew took her to keep her hidden from the Congregation. (I don't like the term Congregation either. Makes me think of church and not a scary group of supernatural beings.) Apparently this book was compared to the Twilight series, which I think odd because I never saw the connection (I have read them all, to my shame). What I will compare this book to is the Charlaine Harris Sookie Stackhouse series. Those books are far superior to this book. Sookie is a poor little human with just her one skill (she can read minds) and yet she protects herself quite well, rarely needs her supernatural friends to come to her rescue, and has several times saved her vampire boyfriends. Plus, she does it all with a sense of humor. Diana, who apparently has every witchy power ever known, plus some that aren't, can barely twinkle her nose to make magical tea.

Another point of irritation with me are all the characters who need their backstories told. I don't really need to know or want to know everything about these characters. If they are going to stick around for awhile, tell me their stories later or create a glossary and stick them at the back of the book. The flow of the novel is stopped over and over again to tell me something not all that interesting about a minor character. My last point is about this ridiculous Knights of Lazarus organization. I find this organization absolutely unbelievable and incomprehensible. I'm not giving away any plot secrets by mentioning this because I still can't figure out what the author meant by creating this order of do-gooder vamps who have helped people in need over the centuries. It's so ridiculous. Whenever it was brought up, I tried to skim over it, hoping it would disappear. The haunted Bishop house, the house as a character, was entertaining. I did enjoy that detail. Overall though, now that I've written this review, I'm trying to figure out what exactly I DID like about the book. This book basically sets up the next two books in the trilogy. I will probably read the second book but I doubt I will buy it. I think Harkness, just as with Justin Cronin of The Passage, saw an opportunity to make some money on the current (and lasting way too long) vampire, witch, supernatural creatures popular literature fad. However, Harkness has taken vampires and turned them into wine-loving, gentle, kind creatures who wear business suits or lab coats, have tons of money, and are really kind of boring.
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Reading Progress

April 12, 2011 – Started Reading
April 12, 2011 – Shelved
April 12, 2011 – Shelved as: fiction
April 17, 2011 – Finished Reading
January 21, 2013 – Shelved as: supernatural-creatures
January 21, 2013 – Shelved as: my-book
January 21, 2013 – Shelved as: brain-candy
June 28, 2013 – Shelved as: disappointing

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Lacie (Darkangel78) Exactly!


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RB This book sounds overhyped indeed. I can see why it's compared to the Twilight series.
Currently reading The Passage by Justin Cronin, and I must say that I like what I'm reading so far.


Kristina Coop-a-Loop R.B. wrote: "This book sounds overhyped indeed. I can see why it's compared to the Twilight series.
Currently reading The Passage by Justin Cronin, and I must say that I like what I'm reading so..."


I liked The Passage too up until it jumped into the future. Then the whole thing fell apart for me & I hated it. Maybe you will love it, but beware because it was overhyped more than the witch book.


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RB Kristina wrote: "R.B. wrote: "This book sounds overhyped indeed. I can see why it's compared to the Twilight series.
Currently reading The Passage by Justin Cronin, and I must say that I like what I..."


I'll keep your warning in mind, thanks :-)


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V B I read this pretty fast, and it was on my mind while doing other things, trying to figure out where it was going, but ultimately, I agree with you.


Tonya You wrote my review for me, well done & I agree completely with you.


Kristina Coop-a-Loop Tonya wrote: "You wrote my review for me, well done & I agree completely with you."

I've talked to two of my friends who have read the book and they had the same reaction to it. Where are all these people who love it? They must like their vamps boring and civilized and their women constantly in need of rescue...blech.


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M_m Totally on point with this review.


Melissa I too wonder what editors do anymore?


Lesley A million times yes. These were my thoughts exactly.


Corinne this review nailed it!


Kristina Coop-a-Loop I still have this book sitting on my shelf at home and I'd like to donate it to my local library, but the cover is so pretty...and that's one of the best compliments I can give the book! Plus, I don't want to be responsible for some other poor soul thinking this will be a great book, then being so rudely disappointed. I'll keep it on my shelf for now.


Kristina Coop-a-Loop Melissa wrote: "I too wonder what editors do anymore?"

I find that books that are wildly popular and/or overhyped have poor editing. The Twilight books, Harry Potter books, Sookie Stackhouse, The Passage, this book--all of them could have used a good editor with a steady supply of bright red pens. I guess they figure the books already have a built-in fan base so why put the time & effort & money into a thorough editing? I don't know but it is a depressing and irritating trend.


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Cat Considering I want to get into the production department of publishing, maybe I'll actually be able to find a job.


Kristina Coop-a-Loop Cat wrote: "Considering I want to get into the production department of publishing, maybe I'll actually be able to find a job."

Good luck. I briefly worked in publishing (text books, not the more exciting world of fiction) and it's pretty much dog eat dog. High turnover. Get out your red pens and be ready to duel!


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Kim Collins i agree with you- i was enamored, too, I think I was just waiting for something big to happen or the shoe to fall. I'm halfway through and I dont want to stop, but I need some ACTION!!!


Shawn Davis Thank you so much for saying this so that I didn't have to!


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At first I was very excited by this book but you do have some excellent points. Diana is turning into a wimp IMO also. I do like the stuff about the DNA.


Annette Like others said you seemed to have written my review exactly! I would like to add that the house that is magically alive has sort of been covered in the Drake Sister novels by Feehan :http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28.... I felt like this entire book was a patchwork quilt of other people's ideas and works thrown together to make a couple hundred pages and called a story. Can I just add a link to your review in mine? lol


Kristina Coop-a-Loop Annette wrote: "Like others said you seemed to have written my review exactly! I would like to add that the house that is magically alive has sort of been covered in the Drake Sister novels by Feehan :..."

I haven't read those novels. I'm not a huge fan of the supernatural/paranormal genre--I basically don't pay attention to categories & just read what interests me. There's a woman on Amazon.com who wrote a killer review of this book & she nailed how I felt about the book too (about brought up other points I didn't even think of)but I think the author of this book just jumped on the bandwagon & wanted to make some money and borrowed ideas from everyone. Too bad about the house idea though because that was one of the few aspects of the novel I liked! Can we link reviews? Go for it! Oh, I'll check out your link about the Drake Sisters novels.


Melissa Kristina wrote: "Melissa wrote: "I too wonder what editors do anymore?"

I find that books that are wildly popular and/or overhyped have poor editing. The Twilight books, Harry Potter books, Sookie Stackhouse, Th..."


I wanted to edit New moon soooooo bad. It's the first movie that I actually liked better than a book. At least the movie was edited.


Alienman I couldn't even finish this book for all the reasons you listed. Sounds like I didn't miss out!


Rachel I couldn't get through Twilight. I'm not a mushy person and I hated that Bella went from a normal girl to the mushmeister. The same thing happened to Diana. Does everyone who falls in love lose themselves that much? I doubt it or else I am not now nor have I ever been in love. The scene where she saves Matthew made me nauseous and it wasn't because of the blood. Thankfully that was near the end so I was able to finish the book but AIGH! I was very disappointed because it started out so good. Yeah I will read the next book because I'm curious what happens but like you said, I wouldn't pay money for it.

I was actually quite interested in Ashmole 782 but she took it away and went the way of the Congregation which was unnecessary. The bewitched manuscript was interesting in its own right. Instead it turned into an unbelieveable joke, IMHO.

The romance drove me nuts... not only for the mush and Diana turning into a total wimp but because they didn't have sex. Like you said, I don't need porn but it was built up in such a way that I was expecting light porn (or at least a nice "and the marriage was consummated"). There was no need to build it up at all. Vampires don't have sex any Anne Rice fan knows that. LOL. Based on what little I've seen of True Blood Sookie Stackhouse may be a little too porny for me and the series is way too long but I'm going to go look at The Passage and the Drake sisters and any other recommendations. I like witches and vampires as long as its's not too mushy and too *ahem* unrealistic.


Rachel Kim wrote: "i agree with you- i was enamored, too, I think I was just waiting for something big to happen or the shoe to fall. I'm halfway through and I dont want to stop, but I need some ACTION!!!"

There is no action of any kind.


Rachel OK I won't be reading the Passage, its about an evil government plot or something ... next.


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Georgette My other friend was reading this book, and she kept saying it was taking forever. Vampires do NOT do yoga, that nailed it for me, no reading this for me. Thank you for the great review.


Michelle Bacon yes, it did take forever to read because there was just so much going on. It was too weighted down and it just drug along. I've read longer books in less time. Really!


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Georgette Michelle, not only you, but another one of my friends!


Brandon I usually give a book around 100 pages to pull me in. I gave this one 90 and was very concerned that NOTHING had happened yet. So, here I am and check out this excellent review confirming my suspicions. Thank you.


Kristina Coop-a-Loop I find it fascinating that this book is still on people's reading lists. And then they read my review, and it's off! I'm thinking of reading the next one in this series just for the sheer fun of writing another snarky review. I have a friend who gets book recommendations (what to read and what NOT to read) from me so much that I've come up with a motto for my service: "I read bad books so you don't have to." I should use that here too, apparently.


Charlotte you are so ignorance. i'm not going to rant about how annoying you are, so please stop ranting about how annoying you, in your ignorance,, find this book. I loved it.


Kristina Coop-a-Loop Charlotte wrote: "you are so ignorance. i'm not going to rant about how annoying you are, so please stop ranting about how annoying you, in your ignorance,, find this book. I loved it."

Are you kidding me? I wrote one review of this book (many, many months ago) and sometimes respond to comment left by readers. That's it. If that's a rant, you'd better check your dictionary. It is not ignorant or annoying to not like a book. It's called a difference of opinion. Grow up. If you don't have an intelligent comment to make, please don't make one.


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Tonya Charlotte wrote: "you are so ignorance. i'm not going to rant about how annoying you are, so please stop ranting about how annoying you, in your ignorance,, find this book. I loved it."

Charlotte please understand everyone has different tastes, many of us did not like this book. If you did great, those of us that liked Kristina's review didn't.
Deal with it, life will throw many worse things at you than someone not liking a book you "loved."


Kristina Coop-a-Loop Thank you, Tanya. Besides which, this is a book site. What do we do here? Review and talk about books....
*still shaking my head in confusion*


Melissa The reviews of the book talked about it's similiarities to Twilight & Harry Potter, but I just started an older book called The Historian by Elizabeth Kostova and I have to say, I found another book that "Witches" seems to have borrowed from. The whole historical library, things appearing, creachers not wanting you to read them. Déjà vu


Jennifer "The book is basically just a description of food, wine, her "stretchy black pants"". That sort of nails it right there, doesn't it?

Great review, and I agree with you on almost every single one of your observations. However, for some reason, I loved the book and I can't stop thinking about it. I'm not sure what is up with that.


Kristina Coop-a-Loop Jennifer wrote: ""The book is basically just a description of food, wine, her "stretchy black pants"". That sort of nails it right there, doesn't it?

Great review, and I agree with you on almost every single on..."


It's the weird spell the book puts on you. It happened to me and happened to my friend who borrowed my copy. It lingers in the mind and makes you THINK you liked it....the witchy powers at work.


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Sarah Best review yet.


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Tim Mckinstry Yikes, your review could have used an editor itself! At least use paragraphs to break up that daunting wall of text ;) Good points raised though.


Kristina Coop-a-Loop I wrote the review on Word and copied and pasted and the paragraph breaks did not translate. I've actually read the dumb thing a few times and fixed some typos and I refuse to mess with it again! But it is a solid wall of text--let's say it's a visual representation of how irritating I found the book.


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Tim Mckinstry Perhaps I came across too harsh, just poking fun. The review is not dumb at all. Definitely buying the Sookie Stackhouse books instead of this one now.


Kristina Coop-a-Loop Oh, no, you didn't come across as harsh. I'm making fun of myself. Sookie is good, up to a point. The last 2 were so-so and the most recent one (published in May? Aug?) was awful. I couldn't even read it. Sad but true.


±áÑ”±ô±ô²âµþÑ”±ô±ô²â Absolutely brilliant review. This book put a spell on me as well, but when I finished it I realized nothing ever happened. Gave it a three because I did not hate it, but it annoyed me immensely. Spot on with the PG lovey-dovey, no passion there at all. And those blinking stretchy pants with boat grease. And towards the end of the book she kept eating toast and drinking tea constantly. The haunted house was the best part. I am so not reading the sequel. I must say tho that The Historian mentioned by someone in the comments is one of my favourite books. I agree they have the scholarly bits in common, but we have a very scary count Drac and the story is moving along.


Kallierose You made many good points (most of which I was too lazy to make in my slap-dash review). In particular, it's good to know that someone else noticed the lack of good editing, and the fact that the heroine spent half of her time insisting that she could take care of herself, and the other half of the time letting whats-his-face take care of her. Honestly, the most interesting character in this book was the house.


Kristina Coop-a-Loop Kallierose wrote: "You made many good points (most of which I was too lazy to make in my slap-dash review). In particular, it's good to know that someone else noticed the lack of good editing, and the fact that the ..."

I'm fascinated that people are still reading this book. I'm looking forward to the sequel now just to see if the author improved her characters (maybe they'll *gasp* KISS or something & get the relationship moving. It's almost as bad as freaking Castle and Beckett) or if they are still annoying. I liked The Historian, but found the vamp aspect of it really, really disappointing. Funny and disappointing. Read The Night Circus! That was good!


Lianne Wow! I personally really enjoyed this book but I don't find the reviewer ignorant for not liking it! People have different tastes which makes life more interesting! The review was really well written, wish I could write like you!


Kallierose LOL, I just read The Night Circus right before A Discovery of Witches, which is probably part of the reason I found it so disappointing. I loved The Night Circus so much that I knew whatever I read next would pale in comparison, LOL. As for Castle and Beckett, I really like them a lot more when they're flirting. I'm afraid that if they got together, the magic would be gone.


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Jayne I guess you don't like the book then. Oh and by the way, without the alchemists of yesteryear, we wouldn't have the scientific breakthroughs of today!


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Jayne I guess you don't like the book then. Oh and by the way, without the alchemists of yesteryear, we wouldn't have the scientific breakthroughs of today!


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Jayne I guess you don't like the book then. Oh and by the way, without the alchemists of yesteryear, we wouldn't have the scientific breakthroughs of today!


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