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Embassytown by China Miéville
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In ninth grade, Mrs. Muench--who had an uncanny resemblance to Miss Marple's friend Dolly Bantry--endeavored to teach us the difference between similes and metaphors.

Similes use "like" and "as" to compare two unlike things.

Metaphors state two unlike things are the same.

But dear, enthusiastic Mrs. Muench could not have anticipated China's sophistry: metaphors are lies.

Embassytown is a deep-thinking book, not one to pick up if you are in a the mood for a fast action read. China's use of a futuristic language, coupled with representation of an alien speaking that tongue (in a form that looks disturbingly like a fraction equation), requires attention to detail, an ability to read for an hour or two at a time. Along with altered language, he throws in the isolation of a human city in the middle of an alien world on the edge of known space; altered biology, in an alien race that somehow biologically fuses/grows their mechanical needs out of organics, including their homes; and an alien race that not only speaks with two mouths simultaneously, but cannot lie. Further complications come from his solution to deep space travel, by way of the immer. The challenge for both races is in communication. In order to communicate with the alien Ariekei, two people have to speak simultaneously, mimicking the double Ariekei mouth. But since the Ariekei also sense the thought/mind behind the word, two different people speaking the same thing makes no sense to the Ariekei, so the solution was to raise human clones to function as Ambassadors to the aliens.

Forget Being John Malkovich. I'd like an hour in China's mind.

Overall, I found it a fascinating, immersive read, reminding me strongly of The Dispossessed--and that is highest praise--although he doesn't always have LeGuin's kindness in contextualizing most oddities. Still, it's well done, and balances the personal and the political well. He taps some eternal truths in the midst of alien outlandishness: "As I've grown older I've become conscious of how unsurprising I am." There's a sly sense of humor occasionally tempering the seriousness: "I knew something would (happen) as certainly as if this were a last chapter." It shows again in the initials of the lead character's name: "A.B.C.," fitting in a book about language.

There is tenderness and compassion, however alien, when one of the self-aware bio-machines downloads herself into a new body, just so she can give Avice a hug.

The crux of the novel lies in the Arikei limitation to speak literally. Avice becomes part of their language when she takes part in an event, thus allowing the Arikei to use her as a simile. It is a fascinating and fun idea (ever wonder about the first cat out of the bag?) that allows China to play with the definitions of truth, lies, language and meaning. However, language evolves, and interaction with the humans is starting to push the Arikei language to it's limits. Avice ends up pushing them even further. "I don't want to be a simile anymore," I said. "I want to be a metaphor." He unfolds the examination of language within both Avice's own life when she brings her linguist husband home to her world, and the politics of her province-city. China's genius shows when he throws in issues of addiction and identity into the mix.

Why not five stars? It is not a comfortable book. It could have been tightened up a little bit; as I work my way through the review, I marvel at all the things China tried to accomplish, and wonder if he should have limited a variable or two in favor of greater coherence. Was the immer necessary, for instance? There's interesting hints at Avice's friendship with an autom/biological robot as the biological systems break down, but I'm not sure what role it really played, and if it just confused the story further. Still, an impressive work, and likely to be a classic.

Interesting quotes:

"Beside him, Ez was like a ventriloquist's doll, existing only when he spoke, or was spoken through."

The army of hopeless and enraged had been driven to murder by their memories of addiction, and the sight of their compatriots made craven to the words of an interloper species. That degradation was the horizon of their despair."


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December 23, 2011 – Started Reading
December 23, 2011 – Shelved
January 14, 2012 – Finished Reading

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message 1: by Ian (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ian "Marvin" Graye Wonderful review.


carol. Thank you, Ian.


Cecily Another vote for a wonderful review. I'm revelling in the idea of "Being China Mieville".


carol. Thanks, Cecily! I need to read more Mieville--the man is amazing with language and ideas.


Cecily I've only read three, and this is by far the best, imo.


message 6: by Ian (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ian "Marvin" Graye Cecily wrote: "I've only read three, and this is by far the best, imo."

This must be like choosing your favourite child. "I treat all of my children equally, especially my favourite one."


Cecily Not for me: the first I was very disappointed with (The Scar), the second I thought very good (The City & The City) and this third was one of the best books I've read. (Maybe it's because I only have one child, so I've never had to worry about favouritism.)


message 8: by Ian (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ian "Marvin" Graye One child must teach you to be discriminating.


Cecily One child has taught me many things, possibly including that. He was also the one that bought me Embassytown (albeit after a casual suggestion).


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Mimi Great review, Carol! Perdido was going to be my first step into Mieville's wonderfully weird worlds, but now I'm leaning toward Embassytown.


carol. It was a very challenging book, rewarding in its inventiveness and thinkingness. I recommend it when you want brain-food. I hear Mielvillians are fond of The City and The City as well--I started but didn't get far before getting distracted. It's more mystery-like.


Cecily Yes, The City and The City is a noirish detective story with a sci-fi setting! Very good, though personally I prefer Embassytown.


Michael Excellent review with some nice insights on aspects that worked well and not so well for you. LOL on "
Forget Being John Malkovich. I'd like an hour in China's mind."

Of the five I've enjoyed, this one is the closest to conventional science fiction; i.e. focus on communication with and understanding of aliens and how that ends up elucidating human nature. His books are so different, it is like apples vs. oranges to try to compare them.


carol. Thanks, Michael. Yes, China has a very diverse body of work.


message 15: by nks (new) - rated it 4 stars

nks "Forget Being John Malkovich. I'd like an hour in China's mind." Yes, yes, so much yes.


carol. Book Punks wrote: ""Forget Being John Malkovich. I'd like an hour in China's mind." Yes, yes, so much yes."

:)


Frank Downs I thoroughly enjoyed your review, even if it makes anything I might write redundant.


carol. Frank! What a kind thing to say. Thank you!


BlackOxford This is my favourite Mieville. I intended to write a review until I read yours, which I don't think can be bettered. I am fascinated by the idea of the immer. Have you any further thoughts about it?


message 20: by carol. (last edited Jan 01, 2017 11:25AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

carol. Thank you, Michael, that's quite a compliment!
No, I didn't spend much thought time on the immer. I felt like it was equivalent to LeGuin's 'ansible,' a device that can't really be explained in context of current knowledge but allows the world set-up. Language and cognition is my groove, so I spend most of my mental effort on that.

Your thoughts?


BlackOxford Thanks for responding Carol. I find the immer interesting. In German of course it is the forever, the eternal, the ultimate. There is clearly a mystical component in the way Mieville uses it. But also the sense of a sort of substrate to existence, which I feel is connected, without any proof whatsoever, with the idea that metaphors are lies. To me it's a very Platonic insertion into the story that solves the problem of inter-stellar travel but also maintains its philosophical thrust.


carol. Ah, interesting stuff, Michael. Thanks for sharing your thoughts--it does make sense relating to the story like that.


message 23: by Emily (new)

Emily Great review, Carol.


carol. Thank you, Emily.


Monica Carol. wrote: "Forget Being John Malkovich. I'd like an hour in China's mind."

Indeed!! Excellent review.


carol. Thank you! A confusing book worthy of some introspection.


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Alfred Haplo Monica wrote: "Carol. wrote: "Forget Being John Malkovich. I'd like an hour in China's mind."

And I'd like an hour in Carol.'s mind after she's been in China's mind. Is there a book like that? Nice review, Carol.


message 28: by carol. (last edited Sep 17, 2017 05:14PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

carol. Thank you, Alfred. High praise, indeed.

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carol. :D I had always seen the older lady first, but when I found it this time, I found the young one. Perhaps that says something about aging. Perhaps not.


Radiantflux thanks for the tip. this was great! I would to read a sequel, though I don't know where he could go from here. out into the immer I guess.


carol. Thanks, Radiantflux. Glad you enjoyed it. I felt like it really demanded a lot on from the reader.


Radiantflux Carol. wrote: "Thanks, Radiantflux. Glad you enjoyed it. I felt like it really demanded a lot on from the reader."

Really? I found it a bit demanding at first, but soon got swept up in the story and lost myself (of course I might have missed a lot).

Any idea what the idea was with the Turing Machine friend? That story just didn't seem to go anywhere.


carol. I have no idea about the Turing Machine friend. I don't even remember it :)


Radiantflux There was this robot that she was friends with at the start of the book, that ended up locking itself in it's room at some point and then disappearing from the story. A minor plot point, but a bit confusing.


Cecily You're thinking of Avice's automaton friend, Ehrsul, who runs on Turingware. Good point though; that strand did rather fizzle out, as I recall.


Radiantflux Cecily wrote: "You're thinking of Avice's automaton friend, Ehrsul, who runs on Turingware. Good point though; that strand did rather fizzle out, as I recall."

Right. It's a minor point, but just seemed to go nowhere, and I wasn't quite sure what the point of it was. The book was pretty tightly written so this sort of stood out for me.

I wasn't quite sure if Melville's point was that Ehrsul was really just a non-conscious bit of code, given the aliens couldn't hear her speech.


Amrita Goswami I loved your review. And I loved this book, which I liked better even after rereading. Apart from the very interesting treatment of language, I enjoyed reading about Avice's friendship with Spanish Dancer.


carol. Excellent! You are conjuring vague memories here. :) I'm glad that it worked out so well for you!


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