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Normal People by Sally Rooney
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did not like it
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I am not sure how to write this review because I seem to be so far beyond the pale on my antipathy to this book. In simplest terms I didn't connect with this work at all and I would be best to chalk this up to a "reader/writer" mismatch and move on but I will try and articulate some of my reading experience.

Some of my perplexity with Normal People is that I just couldn't relate to the twenty something, highly educated, politically aware and cynical young adults that populate this novel. I am not sure how reflective these voices are of young Irish making their way in the world, but as presented here I found them exasperating to listen to and not particularly nuanced.
It is possible that even if I didn't enjoy the novel I might like the writing but in actual fact Rooney's style is perhaps the single biggest thing that bugged me. I found some passages of interest sandwiched between a lot of wooden dialogue and these flat descriptions ...

Marianne goes inside and comes back out again with another bottle of sparkling wine, and one bottle of red. Niall starts unwrapping the wire on the first bottle and Marianne hands Connell a corkscrew. Peggy starts clearing people's plates. Connell unpeels the foil from the top of a bottle as Jamie leans over and says something to Marianne. He sinks the screw into the cork and twists it downwards. Peggy takes his plate away and stacks it with the others

This kind of writing really gives me nothing.

Others have cited the two dimensional nature of her secondary characters and I would concur. Barely any of them made much of an impression on me. Alan - Marianne's brother, seemed particularly badly drawn. He appears to be a key part of understanding Marianne and yet he warrants only a few pen-strokes of unexplained malice and cruelty. The opening of a wine-bottle and pouring of cups of tea receives much more page space.

I tried to understand Marianne, who seems to be both ugly and beautiful, popular and friendless. Her hinted at troubled family life was suppose to underpin her need to be a submissive. I remain unconvinced that this is really how dominance and submission works and I would think experts in BDSM might strongly take issue with some of the cliches here.

The relationship between Marianne and Connell should have kept this book afloat at the very least. The intense emotional and physical connection, the will they / won't they stay together, all the drama of YA love is here but it is in an eye-wateringly navel-gazing form. I found it all exactingly po-faced. The number of inexplicable break-ups, largely based on mis-communication was about three or four break-ups too many for me. I just wanted to yell at this novel most of the time. Say what you mean and stop being so insufferably difficult !, either split up or stay together, both your friends and I really don't care !. Marianne and Connell were of most interest to me when they started emailing each other, discussing novels and politics thus preventing them breaking up over some new emotional minutiae. Perhaps this should have been a novel of their email exchanges.

Oh well, I guess I will never be a Rooney fan and I have doubtless missed the point of this book entirely but that is ok not every book is for every reader.
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Reading Progress

August 25, 2018 – Shelved
September 20, 2018 – Started Reading
September 20, 2018 –
page 1
0.35%
September 22, 2018 –
page 150
52.08% "I feel like I am not the right reader for this carry on. It’s exasperating."
September 24, 2018 –
99.0%
September 24, 2018 – Finished Reading

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David Oh. My. God. You really, really didn't like this one. I love your honesty and the Lone Star rating it warrants. 👌🏼


message 2: by P. (new) - rated it 4 stars

P. I tried reading the first chapter of Conversations with Friends and this is kinda how I felt. I was totally baffled because Rooney is praised frequently as the Next Big Literary Genius and seeing no signs of it in the book, I was worried that I was losing it. The Guardian review of this book called it a 'Future Classic' and I thought I'd maybe give it a chance. But now I'm not so sure :P


Meike Interesting review and well argued - thanks, Trudie! (Since I haven't read this one, I'm completely impartial, I just enjoy reading good reviews about it! :-))


Trudie Pechi - Yep, it might be a "Future Classic" but if so it's not one I got on with obviously. People I respect seem to like this very much so I can't really say for sure whats going on but this is my unadulterated gut reaction to it for what it is worth ;)

David - I better like something soon or I am going to get a reputation


Trudie Meike you need to read this as I am VERY curious about your take on it.


Marchpane Oh dear! Sorry this was a bust for you, but I can absolutely see your point of view, and it seems to be a book that either really works or really doesn't. Here's hoping your next read is a winner!!


Trudie Marchpane wrote: "Oh dear! Sorry this was a bust for you, but I can absolutely see your point of view, and it seems to be a book that either really works or really doesn't. Here's hoping your next read is a winner!!"

Thanks Maggie, I know its unusual l for us to such polar opposites but thats ok ! and yes my current read is really good - thankfully


Laura I Tried a sample of Conversations with Friends and gave up out of snoredom. Expect this one is similar, and will not be purchasing. Thanks Trudie.


Sarah Great review, Trudie. It’s funny - I really liked this and thought it was incredibly accurate of relationships in my 20s, but my dad said on finishing that he couldn’t understand why they kept breaking up and getting back together. It seems like people’s views are totally polarised on this, possibly due to a number of different factors.


message 10: by Neil (new) - rated it 3 stars

Neil My example was:

The kettle comes to the boil. Lorraine sweeps the line of hairpins into the palm of her hand, closes her fist around them and pockets them. She gets up then, fills the cup of tea, adds milk, and puts the bottle back in the fridge. He watches her.

I feel your pain!


Trudie Haha Neil ! There are way too many examples of this type of thing in this novel and tea is at the epicentre of many of them.


Trudie Sarah wrote: "Great review, Trudie. It’s funny - I really liked this and thought it was incredibly accurate of relationships in my 20s, but my dad said on finishing that he couldn’t understand why they kept brea..."

Thanks Sarah , good on your Dad for reading this one ! and I am with him, when I decide I don't like you anymore then that is the end, there is no return, so in this regard my rating for this was maybe inevitable ?


message 13: by Marchpane (last edited Sep 25, 2018 05:14AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Marchpane Neil wrote: "My example was:

The kettle comes to the boil. Lorraine sweeps the line of hairpins into the palm of her hand, closes her fist around them and pockets them. She gets up then, fills the cup of tea, ..."


I know it's weird but I found these bits oddly soothing. It's like she's describing one of those ASMR videos where people silently chop food (or pour tea!) or something. Those quoted passages do seem terrible out of context, but within the book... for me anyway, it seemed to work.


Trudie I had to look that up Maggie and it IS true reading this sometimes invoked a sedative sensation that begins on the scalp and moves down the body I just don't know if that was the intention ;)


Claire Trudie I really appreciate your reviews they are always so honest, and thoughtful, and reasonable.


Marchpane Trudie wrote: "I had to look that up Maggie and it IS true reading this sometimes invoked a sedative sensation that begins on the scalp and moves down the body I just don't know if that was the intention ;)"

Haha! Hey maybe this will kick off a trend in ASMR literature :) I may need to trademark that it will make a mint 'in these anxious times' !


message 17: by Dan (new) - rated it 5 stars

Dan Trudie, it’s so interesting to read a sensible, well-articulated, contrary view on this. I’m looking forward to how you compare it with Milkman, with its different style, different setting, and different portrait of adolescence.


Rachel I loved this book but I also loved reading your perspective on it, and I completely understand where you're coming from. Hope your next read is better suited to you!


message 19: by CanadianReader (last edited Sep 26, 2018 06:58AM) (new)

CanadianReader Wow, did I ever get a good laugh from your review! I couldn’t handle Conversations with Friends. Just found it dull, dull, dull, and stopped. The “Marianne goes inside . . .� quotation you provide is representative of an especially irritating and tedious kind of writing: the present-tense unfolding of minutiae. Reading it conjures up all the joy of watching paint dry. Net Galley has granted me a copy of this, Trudie, but I suspect I’m going to react much as you have—but with far less wit.


message 20: by Dan (new) - rated it 5 stars

Dan Canadian wrote: "Wow, did I ever get a good laugh from your review! I couldn’t handle Conversations with Friends. Just found it dull, dull, dull, and stopped. The “Marianne goes inside . . .� quotation you provide ..."

Trudie, Canadian, just goes to show: the "present-tense unfolding of minutiae" mentioned by Canadian and Trudie's quote help to make the plot and the characters more real to me.


Trudie Goodness me, nice to provoke some polite but diverse reactions here (and learn about weird videos at the same time).
Thanks for all your comments. Canadian Reader, I look forward to your own take on this with slight trepidation !


message 22: by CanadianReader (new)

CanadianReader Neil wrote: "My example was:

The kettle comes to the boil. Lorraine sweeps the line of hairpins into the palm of her hand, closes her fist around them and pockets them. She gets up then, fills the cup of tea, ..."

Oh dear. I find this even more dreadful than the quotation Trudie produced!


message 23: by CanadianReader (new)

CanadianReader Dan wrote: "Canadian wrote: "Wow, did I ever get a good laugh from your review! I couldn’t handle Conversations with Friends. Just found it dull, dull, dull, and stopped. The “Marianne goes inside . . .� quota..."
Dan, it’s challenging enough to maintain interest in the minutiae of my own life! 😉


Marcus Hobson Thanks Trudie, it is great that you are able to be very specific with your dislikes and problems with this book.The rest of us will know if these things will irritate us too! :)


Trudie Thanks Marcus - I try ;)


Derek Macleod Articulate and honest review which resonated with many of my own sentiments. However having rated it slightly higher I have to admit that the mundane detail and the minutia dross seems to be par of the course within a genre of contemporary and more youthful novelists that I have read in recent times and so ask the question, ‘am I not wired up in the same way� settled cozily with my Nabakov bench mark ?


message 27: by Catie (new)

Catie THIS.


Sylvia I couldn't wait for it to end. The recycling of their connection (good, bad, abusive, etc) was agonizing.


Evascho I 100% agree with all of this. Especially the boring descriptions of what people did or ate.


message 30: by Clarence (new)

Clarence I would give it more than a 1 out of 5, but I totally agree with all the things you're highlighted. However, I did enjoy it - not quite sure what level that was on! But I did like reading it despite thinking "really??" quite a lot of the time.


Trudie Clare - yes maybe 1 star is harsh, but if I go by the GR definition of 1 star as didn't like it then that is pretty accurate for my experience. It was just one of those things, I don't often dislike a book to this degree.


message 32: by Henry (new) - rated it 1 star

Henry Utterly agree with you. I thought it was a good book - but I hated it! made me feel old!


message 33: by Elke (new) - added it

Elke 50 pages in and I just turned to goodreads for some reassurance I was not the only one disliking this book.


Niecy My feelings perfectly articulated. Till the end, I was waiting for Alan's and Denise's characters to 'show' why they are the way they are, but there was nothing. This book only frustrated me. Thanks for your review and making me feel/know I am not the only one!


message 35: by Lyn (new) - rated it 1 star

Lyn Stevens "A woman in red lipstick takes his order.." ??? Certainly my first and last Rooney EVER!!!


Elinor Walters My feelings exactly. Just absolutely hated Marianne and Connell is a wet blanket.


Veronica Oh yes! This. I think I'm too old for this book and that's a large part of the reason I'm not enjoying it. But I have exactly the same issue as you with the style, and would have cited that exact passage to support. Dull, flat, especially coming straight from Barbara Kingsolver.


message 38: by Julie (new) - added it

Julie Ehlers Now that I've read the book I agree with all of this! This definitely didn't work as well for me as her last one did. I agree all the contrived misunderstandings were like a YA romance.


message 39: by Kym (new) - rated it 1 star

Kym White I hate this book. I quit on page 159. I don’t care what happens to either of them.


message 40: by Lyn (new) - rated it 1 star

Lyn Stevens Kym wrote: "I hate this book. I quit on page 159. I don’t care what happens to either of them."

So TOTALLY agree with you Kym �.


message 41: by Carol (new)

Carol Masotta No connection .. total reader writer mismatch.


message 42: by Ruchira (new)

Ruchira Neotia Glad I’m not the only one. This is an absolute stylistic mismatch for me. Had to persevere and read it for my book club but the reader/writer mismatch couldn’t be greater.


message 43: by Kelly (new) - rated it 1 star

Kelly You summed up my experience with this book perfectly. Thank you!


message 44: by Romi (new) - rated it 2 stars

Romi Thank god it’s not just me


Debbi I feel like I could have written this exact review myself. I had no connection to these characters and often wondered if I’m just too old for this book. I can not recommend it.


Brooke Buxton My thoughts exactly! I finished it ..... but felt I had wasted my time and possibly brain cells. I had a hard time connecting with any of the characters. In the end it just depressed me. Maybe... that was the point. But I just couldn’t invest in Marianne and Connell’s relationship. I concur with some of the previous post..... it was very much like a YA romance.


judith thomas Absolutely painful from start to finish


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é Loureiro The quote that you've detached is just awful! I'm still making research to decide whether or not I'll read this book.

This perception of yours, though, intrigued me:
"Some of my perplexity with Normal People is that I just couldn't relate to the twenty something, highly educated, politically aware and cynical young adults that populate this novel."

Me (29 y old) and my sisters (19 and 13) are exactly like this. We were born this way. Some - if not most - of my friends have always been like this as well. Maybe young people are learning how to move in a complex and daring world earlier, losing their purity sooner, and as a consequence becoming more cynical and unsatisfied as a result? I will rethink this important matter later.


message 49: by Jenna (new) - rated it 1 star

Jenna Dedic It’s just a bad bad book. Your review is spot on. I didn’t understand why she didn’t develop the main characters who could potentially offer so much insight into the main characters, particularly Marianne. No background on why her family dislikes her so much or why Alan, her brother, could inflict such physical harm on her (reminds me of the brother in Educated, albeit a true story there). But I never got why Marianne was so “bad� because nothing was developed to explain so! And the one and only time Connell sticks up for her to Alan, Alan cries?!! That is just not believable!! I do NOT understand the hype around Rooney as a writer and because she is such a poor writer, and I’m a writer myself, she has given me the nudge to start my damn book after all! Ha. If she can clearly do it, then so can we haha.. but thank you for this review. I’m basically seeking out negative reviews of this book to make sure I’m not missing something here; thankfully I’m seeing there’s a lot of us who didn’t drink the Koolaid.


message 50: by dzé (new) - added it

dzé Jones Glad I’m not alone - this is exactly how I feel about this book. Thanks!


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