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Tigana
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I hated this book, but I'm an oddity; in fact, virtually every other human being seems to love it unconditionally. So if you stumble upon it, give it a try, chances are you'll find it awesome.
So.. what didn't I like about it?
Well, pretty much everything.
This book, in short, tells about the vengeful crusade of a group of refugees from the once-great city of Tigana, destroyed years before by the mage Brandin.
Cool, uh?
Nope.
For starters, nobody cares about the destruction of Tigana.
In fact, the protagonists want revenge simply because Brandin erased the name of the city from the memories of everyone.
Thousands of deaths? Who cares!! But don't you dare touch the name of our city!
This is a pitiful excuse to set the plot in motion but every time it's mentioned every character in the scene will start crying like a baby at the atrocity. When Devin, a famous singer, learns he's a descendant of a Tiganian (?) he immediately abandons his career to swear eternal vengeance against Brandin and spend the rest of his life despairing on "Oh how horrible" a fate his native country had.
Really?
Really????
He didn't even know it existed 5 minutes ago!
Not to mention that the war that destroyed Tigana has been over for decades.
Overreactions like this one are constant because Tigana strives SO hard to be emotional, ALWAYS.
Not a chapter will come to pass without someone crying and despairing over the silliest things or without a completely random scene of oppression at the expenses of an equally random previously-unseen character.
This, together with the incredibly contrived dialogues and a plot that relies entirely on happenstance, contributes to create a story that feels forced from start to finish.
The single most obnoxious thing that alone would have made me drop this book is the narration.
You will never, NEVER see anything happen. An action scene is approaching? Nope! There's always a fade out and then someone will tell you what happened in a couple paragraphs.
At least half of this book is made of digressions and internal monologues telling you things that should have been shown.
What's more? The use of sex as plot device is pitiully cheap, the prose is so flowery it made my eyes bleed, the pace is awfully slow, the characters are cardboard cutouts that will constantly try to be as annoying as humanly possible.
Brandin, the only vaguely interesting character, is a puppet made of cheesy cliches: he's a morally gray woe-stricken antagonist pitied by the female protagonist, and an all-powerful mage that can do ANYTHING... but won't... because... uh... you know.. the laws of magic and all that.
But rest assured he IS the most interesting character by far.
The few good details (such as the riselka, mysterious spirit that will sometimes appear to humans as an omen)are completely overshadowed by the bad ones.
So.. what didn't I like about it?
Well, pretty much everything.
This book, in short, tells about the vengeful crusade of a group of refugees from the once-great city of Tigana, destroyed years before by the mage Brandin.
Cool, uh?
Nope.
For starters, nobody cares about the destruction of Tigana.
In fact, the protagonists want revenge simply because Brandin erased the name of the city from the memories of everyone.
Thousands of deaths? Who cares!! But don't you dare touch the name of our city!
This is a pitiful excuse to set the plot in motion but every time it's mentioned every character in the scene will start crying like a baby at the atrocity. When Devin, a famous singer, learns he's a descendant of a Tiganian (?) he immediately abandons his career to swear eternal vengeance against Brandin and spend the rest of his life despairing on "Oh how horrible" a fate his native country had.
Really?
Really????
He didn't even know it existed 5 minutes ago!
Not to mention that the war that destroyed Tigana has been over for decades.
Overreactions like this one are constant because Tigana strives SO hard to be emotional, ALWAYS.
Not a chapter will come to pass without someone crying and despairing over the silliest things or without a completely random scene of oppression at the expenses of an equally random previously-unseen character.
This, together with the incredibly contrived dialogues and a plot that relies entirely on happenstance, contributes to create a story that feels forced from start to finish.
The single most obnoxious thing that alone would have made me drop this book is the narration.
You will never, NEVER see anything happen. An action scene is approaching? Nope! There's always a fade out and then someone will tell you what happened in a couple paragraphs.
At least half of this book is made of digressions and internal monologues telling you things that should have been shown.
What's more? The use of sex as plot device is pitiully cheap, the prose is so flowery it made my eyes bleed, the pace is awfully slow, the characters are cardboard cutouts that will constantly try to be as annoying as humanly possible.
Brandin, the only vaguely interesting character, is a puppet made of cheesy cliches: he's a morally gray woe-stricken antagonist pitied by the female protagonist, and an all-powerful mage that can do ANYTHING... but won't... because... uh... you know.. the laws of magic and all that.
But rest assured he IS the most interesting character by far.
The few good details (such as the riselka, mysterious spirit that will sometimes appear to humans as an omen)are completely overshadowed by the bad ones.
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I think it had some good characters, a few interesting plot twists and however a linear, cliche storyline it traveled, it did travel it well enough.

I gave it only one star because every page was an ordeal for me, especially around the middle of the book...
But I kinda see your point :)
Thanks for the like!


Yeah. I think it's a very childish book. It did have some things I liked (Fat boy in the mountains. Sister and the God-king.) But overall the story was boring. Maybe good for kids as a stepping stone that liked Harry Potter or something.
If you want a great read try Shadow of Fear or The Book of the New Sun.

You say that they have exagerated emotional reactions, but what happened to them, all the things that resulted in losing your's true identity,cannot but conduct to these human expressions.
I do not consider it a 5 star book, but it is definetly a very good one (in my opinion that is :)

You say that they have exagerated emotional reactions, but what happened to them, all the things that resulted in losing your's true identity,cannot but conduct to these human expressions.
I do not consider it a 5 star book, but it is definetly a very good one (in my opinion that is :)

You say that they have exagerated..."
Yeah... Maybe I just feel "A Rose by any other name would smell as sweet." is entirely too fitting here. A defeated country by any other name is just as defeated. I guess I just don't care that much though. Maybe some people do care and it resonates with them. -Shrug- Just seems pointless to me. Along with their desire to fight back after they already lost. Oh wait, that worked out for them though because ... ?

this so much, also the sex as a plot device. I mean i didnt consciously realise it till i read your review, but you are spot on.

This. Definitely.



I did like scenes in it, and I was able to get into it to some extent, and I remember being very engrossed in the ending scenes. I also think the author has one of the great fantasy styles, because it at least allows for all sorts of complexity, but can also be classical and evoke different eras. It is a shimmering style in a way, intelligent and poetic or historical. (He is a very highly regarded author in the field, after all, and I would even support the general direction.)
But at the same time I thought the characters and plot were often trying very hard and not really working.
So I probably liked the beginning and the last third or so, and the middle sections left me fairly cold or even provoked me.
It's a shame, because I kind of liked having read the book, but didn't feel completely convinced. I wanted to read more by the author but so far didn't feel compelled enough. Maybe it would have been better to start with another book.
I might add that I understand some of the thematic issues like the "relevance of culture" (historically and politically) from an abstract point of view, even though the scenes often didn't work, as mentioned.


Your Nationality is obviously not an integral part of your identity or you would see that it is not the destruction of the name, but everything the name stands for... the reason why their parents were broken husks of people... the representation of the lies and the deaths and the strongarm tactics. The lunacy of the whole thing...
I admit you gotta be a sentimental person to like this, but I found the knife edge political balancing acts exquisite.
I admit you gotta be a sentimental person to like this, but I found the knife edge political balancing acts exquisite.


It was pathetic, just really, really pathetic. The writing just compounded the problem: sometimes I felt like Kay doesn't even know how to speak English. Even some of his "famous quotes" that fans pull out as "exemplary writing", sound like me trying to whack a Spanish sentence into shape with generous assistance from Google Translate. Of course, I feel the same way about Ernest Hemingway, so it might just be me...

You have this woman whose entire country has been destroyed, wiped off the map and out of the history books. She goes undercover in order to get vengeance, even sharing her body with the man responsible for the genocide, so that she can get close enough to him to kill him. But then... she falls in love with him, and even saves his life instead of killing him, thus causing the death of one of her fellow survivors. Then he turns out to prefer the company of another of his many women, which leads to her having a rage/grief attack. The destruction of her entire country she could apparently get over, because he is charming and sort of nice when he isn't feeling genocidal, but when she is a woman spurned? Oh, now he has to die anyway.
And at that I closed the book and never reopened it.



People like nonsense maudlin anthemic books for the same reason that X-factor and [insert country name here]'s Got Talent and the Kardashians and Kanye and Paris Hilton are popular and Donald Trump is the 45th president.
It is simply this:
The average IQ is 100.
It is simply this:
The average IQ is 100.


@ Leni Iversen - well, obviously you didn't finish the book, as you don't realise the constant dividing struggle that Dianora is in. The duality of love and hate.
Yes, there was definitely some melodrama, true. Devin and Catriana were not my favourite characters. However, it is also a balance of maturity and childishness. Devin is 17 years old and Catriana is only what, 19? They both wanted to be part of the revenge, as they at last knew why their parents were such shattered people.
The other characters are all in their 30s/40s and were actually there when their country was destroyed.
But well, everyone to their own. Liking a book or not is just an opinion at the end of the day.



Yes, their very existence was taken away. I hope you have the book with the afterword from Guy Gavriel Kay. When you are done with the book, his afterword is excellent.



You also said that "the characters are cardboard cutouts that will constantly try to be as annoying as humanly possible" and I also deeply agree. In Alais' first POV, she and Catriana get heated over the most inconsequential things, maybe because the writer thinks women must fight all the time. For narrative tension. Like, are they characters here just because they are love interests? It's frustrating how transparent this book is.
I have around 530 pages left. One-star reviews like yours give me the assurance that I am sane, while also giving me the energy to finish this.



JFSchoon wrote: "indeed its not a book for superficial readers. But if you get the deeper meening of it the story is beautiful. - You dont destroy a civilization by 'just' killing its people, but by killing its her..."
You are right. But I've read many "deep" books that didn't bore me to tears. It's the writing style of the author. I've read other books by him and had the same problem. He has very good ideas but the way he realizes them just doesn't captivate me.

