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Oryx and Crake by Margaret Atwood
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did not like it

ETA: Since this is probably my most controversial review, and the one that gets the most responses, I decided to go through and clean up some of the typos. I actually find it amusing how extreme the reactions to it are, and how upset people get when I don't like their favorite book. I'm not saying you can't like it, just that I don't. (And also, you can bitch at me all you want, I'm not changing my mind.) But! I have finally found a Margaret Atwood book I don't hate! I gave her one more shot with The Handmaid’s Tale, and this time, she did not disappoint.

--Original review below--

I am calling complete, and total, bullshit.

There are so many things wrong with this book that it's hard to know where to begin. For starters, the idea of having a couple of different timelines going at once, and shifting tenses according--present tense for the present, regular past tenses for the past--causes some serious grammatical problems, and is an utter BS plot device. I'm not a huge fan of telling a story through flashbacks, but it can be done reasonably while retaining proper grammar. It's not brain surgery.

I admit that I went into this book predisposed not to like it, for a variety of reasons. I didn't like The Blind Assassin (yes, I might be the only person IN THE WORLD who can say that), but I thought that I should be fair and give an author another chance before I made up my mind. I do usually enjoy dystopian literature, but only when it's done well--and that only happens rarely. Her basic idea was kind of interesting (if done better in Richard Matheson's I Am Legend, and even that had its problems), but the execution was fatally flawed. I don't know much about science, but I do know that some of the research was wrong and the timelines don't add up. She seemed like she researched just enough to be able to throw words around, but not enough to use them correctly--a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. The biggest problem was the characters, though: three such utterly unsympathetic main characters do not make it easy to like anything about the story. Crake was a rabid dog that needed to be put down a lot sooner than he was, Oryx was probably insane and too cold to make you care, and Snowman was just too damn stupid. Also, the fact that we meet two of the characters while they're watching child porn means I want them in the electric chair, not that I care about their personal problems.

The biggest problem I have with Atwood, though, is a problem that seems to be systemic in her works: she's so bloody arrogant. When you open one of her books, you're immediately hit in the face by a thought bubble: She is writing World Changing Literature, and you should grovel before her genius. You have to dig through layers of ego just to get to the plot. She has talent, no doubt, but she is so full of herself and her ability to be a Literary Writer that you miss the book forest for the literary trees.

Also-also, she probably thought that ending was clever, but it was, in fact, a cop-out. She was bored with the book, she wanted to end it, so she did. It must be convenient to not have to actually tie up her loose ends.

In summary, I am clearly too much of a plebeian to appreciate the full extent of her genius, and I should crawl back to the benighted hole from whence I came.
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Cecily I am a quarter of the way rereading this, and although I've noticed the fact that childhood scenes use the past tense and adult ones the present (how could one not?), I haven't noticed the resulting grammatical problems - but I'll be on the lookout now!

I agree about the porn references, but I think they conjure up how depraved the society is. Whether that is sufficient justification, I'm less sure.


Rebecca I understood the point in the sense that "society is in such a downward spiral, look what they have access to." I think my problem was more her fascination with describing -what- they were watching, in detail, rather than just saying it was porn on moving on. I get it. Child porn. I don't need the play-by-play. I think that was one of her "I'm so avant-garde, I won't just tell you that they're watching it, I will tell you -what- they're watching! Look at me!" that was so annoying.


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Ashleigh Yes yes yes. We are supposed to read this book for book club & I am going to revolt and not do it. Because I too hated the Blimd Assasin...and loved your review. Thanks.


Penny Reinecke I agree about the timelines. Simply didn't make sense


H. P. Reed AMen, sister! While I like much of Atwood, this book drove me mad with frustration. I wanted to shake her and say "Don't get boring and lackadaisical on me after I spent good hard money on your book."


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Beetle The ending wasn't a cop out- this is a trilogy so it was merely the end of the first part... Fittingly so, as this is the end of the first part of his life after the apocalypse. After this moment, every thing will be changed, because he will have contact with other humans again. I also didn't find any grammatical errors, but I do agree with the egotistical writing. However I actually enjoy that part, it makes the story feel more enduring and weighty, which in turn makes me think about its possibilities and the complexities of the innate problems that exist both within society and without society that Atwood raises in the novel.

Her writing style is definitely love it or hate it, but I'll definitely be finishing up the trilogy!


Timothy Barnes I agree with you on a lot of points. Atwood is a very pretentious author and this novel is chock full of social commentary without enough substance to make it interesting. The characters are shallow and poorly developed, and the bildungsroman arc of Jimmy's tale leaves me dissatisfied and unconvinced. He acts like an unreasonable child for most of his life and only grows up a bit when everyone else on Earth dies. I have no compassion for him or any of the other characters because they cause their own problems 100% of the time. I couldn't even form the slightest bit of interest in Oryx as she doesn't do shit for anyone throughout the story and just acts as a plot device rather than a human being.


Kathy I couldn't even finish Blind Assassin, and I read this book a few years ago, remember thinking "meh" and so far I have to admit that The Handmaid's Tale is the only thing of hers I like.


Kathy I had the sequel, MaddAddam in my library basket, but decided I didn't care enough to finish the trilogy. Life is too short and there are too many books I'm dying to read. Done with this story.


Susanne I can hardly believe this review is in earnest.


Ellen Lee You missed the racist portrayal of Oryx (she's Asian). She's this sexually voracious tart who was a child prostitute but it didn't affect her one bit, no sir, except to make her really really really like sex. Because that's how us Asian women are, don't ya know.


Sonia Gomes Wow, I am Asian and I do like sex


Jeffrey I think I agree to the extent that as I read this book I felt like I was supposed to like it in order to be erudite. The fact that I didn't like the book made me feel like a dunce.


Erica Roberts I didn't like The Blind Assassin. I didn't even finish it.


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Elentarri Thank you very much for the helpful review with all the warnings!


Ellen Lee I'm Asian and I'm having sex right now!


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Kris Dziembowski Oh honey.


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Totesbeau_ I am still reading this book and I just made an account so I could like this review. I thought I was going crazy!
This is my third attempt at reading Atwood, because everyone is always raving. But it is so mediocre, totally relying on celebrity and arrogance. The endings are always lacking and the story never goes deep enough. Why do people enjoy her work?


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A Janev I acknowledge your faults of the book but personally I must disagree as I found it to be a fantastic tale. I found the flashbacks and fusion of past and present to be done very well to portray Snowman as physically living in the present with the Crakers but mentally in the past as he considers all the events with Crake and Oryx leading up to the disease breakout and what he could have done to prevent Oryx's death. There may be some grammatical errors but they were just a minor annoyance with the overall effect it gave. And while the characters themselves may not be extremely complicated, the relationships between them held much weight. These included Crake being Jimmy's only true companion in a world that he felt incompetent in, the love that Jimmy held for Oryx, and Crake's ambition to perfect humanity, all of which converged and ultimately divided the three characters. And I didn't think Atwood went over the top with her message, it was simply a social commentary on the degradation of humanity and what that means for us as a species, in which the child pornography you spoke of ties into. Sure she may be a bit explicit at times with her descriptions but I think she just really wanted us to understand the state of the morals in this era. The ending I also thought was clever, though I may be reading a bit too much into it, as I thought the uncertainty of Snowman's decision to meet the humans represented the uncertainty of humanity's future, along with the possibility that Crake's apocalypse was for nothing if the living humans could not make changes to their society.


Rebecca I have found out since I wrote this review that it's actually part of a trilogy and so the ending was leading into the next book. I do need to update the above because knowing that changes my opinion of the end, and it does make me consider reading the other books to see if the story feels more coherent (to me) after I finish the arc.


Marc  Chénier And you call her arrogant???


Scott Kelman Marc, I was thinking the same thing!


Mmoan2 I'll have to check out your reviews more. This was so much like mine (though better written and more detailed) it made me laugh out loud.


Jocelyn Marc, I was thinking this as well. I am only a few chapters in but I like it so far. Also, the two characters look at all sorts of pornography, not just child pornography. The point is to show the apathy and lack of morals in the society. Anyway, they are kids themselves, about 14 years old, when they are doing this. And the part about the child porn was not explicit in my opinion. In fact, I had to read it a couple of times to be sure that she was actually describing a scene from child pornography.

Also, many survivors of child sexual abuse have issues with sex, including being compulsively sexual. It has nothing to do with her being Asian - Oryx was a victim of human trafficking and was sold by her own mother so young that she barely knew another way of life. She probably has PTSD.

As for the ending, I'm not sure if you mean the end of this one book or the ending of the whole series? This is the first of a trilogy.


Mariel You sound like you've read maybe one kind of book ever in your life, and anything that doesn't fit into your neat, cut-and-dry, boring box doesn't cut it.


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Dan This review was made a long time ago, but still I find it really telling that it was written by someone who gave "The Politically Incorrect Guide to American History" a 5 star rating.


Mmoan2 I'd add to this that every character in this book was a disgusting misanthrope. w


Shruti Is this satirical? To call one of the greatest writers of our times arrogant. Also "grammatical problems"? What? Where? And isn't grammar a conceit anyway. What does it matter as long as it serves the narrative?


TaxusNocturnus I must admit I agree with you on most accounts. But the arrogance hit me to. Maybe that is why I am disappointed. I expected more.


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Yana Barbelo This review does not tell as much about the book as it does about reviewer herself. I think she has a lot of unexamined, preconceived notions that has been challenged by the story. Which actually speaks to the greatness and power of Atwood's skill as a writer.


Michelle Bartlett How does one write a fiction book arrogantly? That doesn’t even make sense. Anyone who thinks that is clearly projecting their own insecurities and issues.


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Boethia Michelle, exactly. Although I'd argue that Nabokov tends to be mildly arrogant (but to be fair, most of it stems from his introduction/afterwords), but I'm seriously failing to see an unce of arrogance in Atwood's writing.


Tracy I laughed out loud when I read this review... seriously?! Atwood is arrogant? Grammatical problems?! I’ve read a lot of Atwood and I’ve never once considered her full of herself, but, that’s me. However, after reading your review I’d definitely say you’re more arrogant than Atwood “I should crawl back to the benighted hole from whence I came� (still laughing at the moronic self absorption).


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Samsara Voile You don't sound like a plebeian. Don't flatter yourself! ;)


donna copeland I agree. I didn't get it. Sorry all you brainiacs, I tried 2vs to read it but just couldnt.


Antonio Ippolito I don't think I agree with one of your judgments :-D


Clive Warner Completely agree. The three characters are all pathetic and hateful.


Judith Genuinely confused about the people making it sound like she concocted some confusing construct here to make her audience feel dumb... I love this book so much and don’t think it’s excessively complex at all 🙄


Albert Myburgh Well, at least I agree with the last paragraph of your review.


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Renato Totally agree !
I could not finish it


Laura I mostly disagree with your review, excepting the part where you find Atwood's writing smug. I had the same feeling for some reason. Not because the plot was complicated, but because it felt like it simplified some complex biological and sociological issues with a few cliche pessimistic ideas. Also, she got a lot of the biology wrong, but somehow the way she wrote those errors made me feel like the author was very proud about her solutions? I may have missed it and she may have been trying to be ironic.


message 42: by Carnelian (new)

Carnelian This is such a weird review. How can you assume she's 'full of herself'? because she writes well?


message 43: by Carnelian (new)

Carnelian One of the greatest authors of all time is arrogant? ha


message 44: by Max (new) - rated it 1 star

Max Yes! I felt exactly this. Well said!


Yamon Bo If you dislike dystopian literature, you shouldn't be wasting time reading Margaret Atwood


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Marianne I was waiting for a point I would actually get to like this book but that never came,and I'm glad I'm not alone.


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Mila Guercio I was just trying to see if I'd like reading this book when I found this review. Are you seriously calling the author arrogant after what you wrote? Lmao you are projecting😂 I wish I could have half the talent Atwood has and people like you would never know how much effort you have to do to write a story. But thanks for the entertainment 🤡 at least she is arrogant with talent...on the other hand you...


message 48: by Hardy (new)

Hardy Definitely a hilarious review! I haven't read the novel yet, I've only been contemplating doing it. Now I've grown a bit wary...


message 49: by Bekah (new) - rated it 1 star

Bekah Short Yes yes yes and yes.


message 50: by Mark (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mark Thomas this book is definitely not a 1* book � the last paragraph of this review seems to be the only part worth reading


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