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Macbeth by William Shakespeare
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it was amazing
bookshelves: pants-crapping-awesome

Don't you kind of hate how we've entered the decadent phase of Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ wherein perhaps fifty percent (or more) of the reviews written by non-teenagers and non-romancers are now naked and unabashed in their variously effective attempts at being arch, wry, meta, parodic, confessional, and/or snarky?

Don't you kind of pine (secretly, in the marrow of your gut's merry druthers) for the good ol' days of Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ (known then as GodFearingGoodlyReading.com) when all reviews were uniformly plainspoken, merely utilitarian, unpretentious, and -- above all else -- dull, dull, dull?

Don't you kind of hate when people say 'don't you think this way or feel that way' in an effort to goad you both psychologically and grammatically into agreeing with them?

In the words of ABBA: I do, I do, I do(, I do, I do).

Well, because the interwebs is a world in which the past stands shoulder-to-shoulder with the present (and with fetish porn), we can revisit the past in its inviolable presentness any time we wish. Or at least until this website finally tanks.

Consider (won't you?) Matt Nieberle's review of Macbeth in its entirety. I have bound it with a heavy rope and dragged it here for your perusal. (Please understand that many a sic are implied in the following reviews.)

its really complicated and stupid!
why cant we be reading like Romeo and Juliet?!?!
at least that book is good!


There you have it. Refreshingly, not a review written in one of the witch's voices or alluding to Hillary and Bill Clinton or discussing the reviewer's first period. Just a primal yell unleashed into the dark wilderness of the cosmos. Yes, Mr. Nieberle is (probably) a teenager, but I admire his ability to strongarm the temptation to be clever or ironic. (Don't you?) He speaks the native language of the idk generation with an economy and a clarity that renders his convictions all the more emphatic.

Here's MICHAEL's review of the same play. You may 'know' MICHAEL; he is the 'Problems Architect' here at Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ. (A problematic title itself in that it implies that he designs problems... which might be the case, for all I know.)

This book shouldn't be required reading... reading plays that you don't want to read is awful.

Reading a play kinda sucks to begin with, if it was meant to be read, then it would be a novel, not a play. On top of that the teach had us students read the play aloud (on person for each character for a couple pages). None of us had read the play before. None of us wanted to read it (I made the mistake of taking the 'easy' english class for 6 years). The teacher picked students that looked like they weren't paying attention. All of this compounded to make me pretty much hate reading classics for something like 10 years (granted macbeth alone wasn't the problem).

I also hate iambic pentameter.


Pure activism there. STOP the mandatory reading of plays. It's wrong, morally and academically. Plus it can really fuck up your GPA. There's no wasteful extravagance in this editorial... no fanfare, no fireworks, no linked photos of half-naked, oiled-up, big-bosomed starlets, no invented dialogues between the author and the review-writer. It's simple and memorable. Being required to read plays is wrong, and if you require anyone, under duress, to read a play then you have sinned and are going to hell, if you believe in hell. If not, you're going to the DMV.

I am also tired of all you smug spelling snobs. You damnable fascists with your new-fangled dictionaries and your fancy-schmancy spell check. Sometimes the passionate immediacy of a message overcomes its spelling limitations. Also, in this age when we are taught to respect each other's differences, it seems offensively egocentric and mean-spirited to expect others to kowtow to your petty linguistic rules. Artistic expression will free itself no matter how you try to shackle it.

That's your cue, Aubrey.

In my personal opinion, the play Macbeth was the worste peice ever written by Shakespeare, and this is saying quite a bit considering i also read his Romeo and Juliet. Ontop of it's already unbelievable plot, unrealistic characters and absolutly discusting set of morals, Shakespeare openly portrays Lady Macbeth as the true vilian in the play. Considering she is mearly the voice in the back round and Macbeth himself is truely committing the hideous crimes, including murder and fraud, I do not see why it is so easy to assume that Macbeth would be willing to do good instead of evil if only his wife were more possitive. I believe that this play is uterally unrealistic.


But the following is by far the ne plus ultra of classic book reviewing. While succinct and without any distracting inclination to coyness or cuteness, Jo's review alludes to a bitterness so profound that it is inexpressible. One imagines a few Signet Classic Editions hacked to bits with pruning shears in Jo's vicinity.

I hate this play. So much so that I can't even give you any analogies or similes as to how much I despise it.


An incrementally snarkier type might have said something like... 'I hate this play like a simile I can't come up with.' Not Jo. She speaks a raw, undecorated truth unfit for figurative language.

And there's certainly nothing wrong with that. Once in a great while, when you get neck-deep in dandified pomo hijinks, it's a nice wallow in the hog pen you're itchin' for. Thank you, Jo. I love you and your futile grasping at similes that can't approach the bilious hatred in your heart. You are mine, and I am yours. Figuratively speaking, of course.

And now here's my review:

Macbeth by William Shakespeare is the greatest literary work in the English language, and anyone who disagrees is an asshole and a dumbhead.

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message 1: by D. (new) - rated it 5 stars

D. Pow death to all fucking dumbheads.


Esteban del Mal Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow
Creeps in this -- fuck it. I hate iambic pentameter, too.

I'm a GR 2.0 (or 3.0, or whateva), but I still appreciate this review. Gives me just the edge I need for a Monday.


message 3: by Bram (last edited May 17, 2010 09:06AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Bram Oh man. This review I like. So much so that I can't even bother looking up a smart-sounding word on thesaurus.com to show my appreciation.


Esteban del Mal This guy didn't read his Macbeth and look what happened to him:



message 5: by Ben (new) - rated it 3 stars

Ben OMG. LOL! I luv u!


message 6: by Ademption (new)

Ademption Dumb is the new...wha?

I think you are opening a pandora's box of meta-ness.

DK, you reached that artistic point shared by Bjork, Radiohead, NIN, Pedro Almodovar's last film (Broken Embraces) and all those other bands from the 90s, who keep grinding out records solely for their own amusement. You are the true critic, gone so far down that eccentric bend few can follow. Too far ahead of your own time. Careful, one day you could wake up the Sun-Ra of Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ.


karen i'm glad i never reviewed this book, because there is no way i could have avoided talking about my first period and then you would have mocked me before the goodreads.com tribunal.

out, damn spot indeed.


notgettingenough You've made me laugh so much. Unlike Karen, I'm wishing I had reviewed this just to see what fun you wuld have made of it.

PS: wuld was a little joke. Sorry.


David eh?


David oh.

heh.

duh.


message 11: by Ademption (new)

Ademption Definitely sour grapes, because I just got the "rambling tangential anecdote, passing reference to the actual artistic work, vote whoring final couplet" style down, hammered out in early days of 2006/7 by DK, Brian, and Jessica. The aesthetic ethos of Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ has already left me behind, mouldering in my attempt at fancrit.


message 12: by Bram (new) - rated it 4 stars

Bram It's almost like the good old (middle period) days. This thread is a Pat, Gary, Stephen, and brian short of becoming an instant classic.


message 13: by Bram (last edited May 17, 2010 10:47AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Bram Welcome to the club, Evan. I'm in review retirement until I catch on to what's Next.


karen i have never tried to be clever. and i have so succeeded in being unclever that the uncleverness has won me david's affection. he hates competition.


message 15: by Ademption (last edited May 17, 2010 10:49AM) (new)

Ademption Bram wrote: "Welcome to the club, Evan. I'm in review retirement until I catch on to what's Next."

It's a sensible position. But judging from this review, the new style is mumblecore.


David Watch for a revival of dry obscurantism for the fall reviewing season.


message 17: by Ademption (last edited May 17, 2010 11:04AM) (new)

Ademption David wrote: "Watch for a revival of dry obscurantism for the fall reviewing season."

You with your la-di-da, affected, monosyllabic comments. My time will come!


message 18: by Ademption (last edited May 17, 2010 11:22AM) (new)

Ademption When irony is ironic, does it become a turbocharged form of earnestness? There is something very Life Aquatic about this review. The ironic distaste of irony leaves me doing the backstroke in deep philosophical waters.

I'm--scared. Also, vote for my review of Mildred Pierce!!!1

edit: Thanks, DK!


message 19: by David (last edited May 17, 2010 11:32AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

David Tut tut. I'd say it out-Wes-Andersons Wes Anderson and ends up being Paul Verhoeven with a side of slaw.

Bruenning, go watch Million Dollar Baby or something. You make fun of stool injuries until they happen to you. And oh... they will, mo cuishle.


message 20: by Mir (new) - rated it 4 stars

Mir Watch for a revival of dry obscurantism for the fall reviewing season.

I've been presaging this trend by trying to construct reviews of academic texts I don't remember out of my thesis notes.


Kat Kennedy This review was fantastic.


Manny Just when you think it can't get more meta, this! I love it. And when is the first dissertation on the history of Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ coming out?


Robert But the extant Macbeth isn't by Shakespeare; it's by Shakespeare with heavy amendment, abridgement and additional material by Thomas Middleton.


Robert Now, how meta was the above comment?


David Here's a glimpse of your future, Goodreaders...

http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...

Unremittingly earnest, thorough, and vaguely 19th century in tone.

In other words, dystopian.


message 26: by Jessica (new)

Jessica I was wondering when you'd weigh in on that review David (#29). I just came across it with its hundreds of comments last night.


karen i enjoyed reading that review. and then david yelled at me for my enjoyment.

story of my life. he wants to lock me up in an attic where i have no fun but am always close by to pull out my pens.

(that could have been a horrifying confessional typo)


message 28: by Jessica (new)

Jessica It's now required reading in the gr review canon.


message 29: by David (last edited May 18, 2010 07:01AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

David Hey. I'm enjoying the curmudgeonly phase of Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ lifespan. I can sit in my green-tiled room, pantless, fanning my genitals with an issue of Catholic Digest, and yelling for the nurse to give me my sponge bath.

Also, I can say what I think -- however inappropriate, offensive, insensitive, or tactless -- and blame it on my senility.

Case in point: I say that review is a load of stiff, stilted, windbaggish cockadoodie. If you (brissy, et al) enjoyed it, you probably enjoy things like root canals and colonic irrigations. But I still love you, brissy. That's just how magnanimous I am.


message 30: by Ademption (new)

Ademption David wrote: "Here's a glimpse of your future, Goodreaders...

http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...

Unremittingly earnest, thorough, and vaguely 19th century in tone.

In other words, dystopian."


You really do troll the backwaters of Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ. That was hideous. The comments were like watching insectoid typewriters fight on a post-apocalyptic landscape.


message 31: by Jessica (last edited May 18, 2010 07:10AM) (new)

Jessica what a great description of the comments!

yes it was hideous. but a must-read I insist to get the full flavor of goodreads.


karen i didn't read the comments, but i had to read the book in my last-summer class, and everyone truly sucks that book's dick and loooooooves it like mad, and i was totally underwhelmed by it, and i didn't understand why it was considered to be such a groundbreaking work. it was refreshing, for me, to read a different opinion.

why am i defending my clicking of a little button? oh, yeah, this guy again...


David Evan wrote: "You really do troll the backwaters of Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ."

Hardly the backwaters. The reviews has 65 (!!!) votes and counting. And three of my (ahem) 'friends' voted for it.


message 34: by Jessica (new)

Jessica I've never read that book Karen. I'll take your word for it.


message 35: by Ben (last edited May 18, 2010 07:24AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Ben Karen, you feel that way about it but you gave it 4 stars?

I can't stand that guy. He think he's logical and smart but he's neither. He reminds me of Sarah Palin in that regard. It's a different kind of oblivious narcissism, but it's an oblivious narcissism nonetheless.


karen i gave it four stars??? hang on here...


David kb: I noticed you didn't vote for BM's BM this morning. Am I having an effect on you??

I'm probably jinxing it by mentioning it, aren't I?


karen you scared me - no, i gave it three, and a bored-review.

i didn't hate it, i just didn't understand why it was so overwhelmingly, universally, adored.


message 39: by David (last edited May 18, 2010 07:31AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

David Another question... why do so many of my friends read YA? 11 of my 52 'friends' have read The Gift (which I've never even heard of before 'that review').

Why do so many non-YAs read YA? It seems literarily pedophilic. Time to take off the trainers and put on the big boy pants, people! (Unless you're a librarian or teacher, in which case it's understandable.)


message 40: by Ben (new) - rated it 3 stars

Ben karen- I know. I was just fucking with you.


message 41: by karen (last edited May 18, 2010 07:31AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

karen i didn't read it (your friend's review) yet, so i don't know if i like it. i was supposed to wake up early to finish my paper and start my other one, but i had a rough night with some sort of eye infection that is now leaking and making me really unhappy and disinclined to do any paper writing. plus i keep getting sucked in here. but i will read it later, oh boy, i will...


message 42: by karen (last edited May 18, 2010 07:33AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

karen i was strongly against adults reading y/a lit before i took that children's class last summer, and then i realized there is actually a lot of good literature out there being produced for younger readers. this is just a fact. i have read zero harry potters and zero twilights, but there is other stuff out there that is worth reading. maybe not for you, david, but then you won't even read dawn powell, so i don't know what to do for you.


message 43: by Ademption (new)

Ademption David wrote: "Another question... why do so many of my friends read YA? 11 of my 52 'friends' have read The Gift (which I've never even heard of before 'that review').

Why do so many non-YAs read YA? It seems..."


The Giver was required reading in libarry school. It is dystopian, which I'm a sucker for. I still don't understand why it was required over Farenheit 451 or A Clockwork Orange. Probably because it was slightly tamer than those two.


message 44: by Ademption (last edited May 18, 2010 08:01AM) (new)

Ademption I agree that YA is a new niche, just like teenager is a fairly recent concept. Since we are no longer killing our food with rocks and fleeing from mortal danger, we have much more time on our hands, and we in the OECD give teens the most time to loaf about at waterparks and libraries instead of putting them to work at looms.

However, Fahrenheit 451, A Clockwork Orange, and Flowers in the Attic are YA novels. They are the YA novels the previous generation read before there was a convenient, commodified niche to play to.


message 45: by Mir (new) - rated it 4 stars

Mir Anything that can be nominally classed as YA currently is published under that rubric because it is a better market right now.


message 46: by Ademption (last edited May 18, 2010 08:12AM) (new)

Ademption Miriam wrote: "Anything that can be nominally classed as YA currently is published under that rubric because it is a better market right now."

Word.

Take "Looking for Alaska," while writing it, John Green described it as "A Separate Piece" with blowjobs. The book is a Printz winner. John Green is much better than V.C. Andrews at writing (I'm guesing that Andrews wins at selling for the present), and yet their works share an audience separated by the eras.


message 47: by Eh?Eh! (new)

Eh?Eh! David wrote: "The reviews has 65 (!!!) votes and counting. And three of my (ahem) 'friends' voted for it. "

So friends have the same taste, and 'friends' don't? I have no friends!


karen i think what i like about the teen stuff i have read is expedience of plot... sometimes i just want to read a story that isn't bogged down with an unnecessary love story sideplot or showoffy stylings to no real literary end. if i want a survival story, i want it clean and primal. and the gary paulsen stuff does that. also, a lot of the teen fiction i have been reading is from other countries, where they don't treat their teens as gently as we sometimes do.


David I'll stick with OA and live in ignorance.


message 50: by Ademption (new)

Ademption karen wrote: " just want to read a story that isn't bogged down with an unnecessary love story sideplot or showoffy stylings to no real literary end. if i want a survival story, i want it clean and primal."

I think I have goodreads crush! Where have you been with your literary minimalism and knowing what you want outta a story?

also, a lot of the teen fiction i have been reading is from other countries, where they don't treat their teens as gently as we sometimes do.

Like Canada, eh? EH? EH? (beat) Not so much.


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