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It is a pity that people are told this is a science fiction book before they read it. I feel the least interesting thing about it is that it is science fiction. I mean this in much the same way that the least interesting thing one could say about 1984 is that it is science fiction. As a piece of literature I enjoyed it much more than Margaret Atwood's Oryx and Crake and even more than Huxley's Brave New World.
The themes that make this book most interesting are to do with the social alienation of groups of people on the basis of inherited genetic characteristics. In fact, as a critique of racism this book is utterly brilliant. Those being racially alienated are genetically identical (they are in fact clones) to those attacking them.
Plato believed those 'in the know' should tell lies to those 'who do not know' so as to protect them from the all too horrible truths about life. I have always hated this aspect of Plato, always finding it grotesque and frightening in its implications. Those implications are drawn out in all their disturbing horror here.
This book has much to say about the nature of 'illness' and how those inflicted with an 'illness' use the scars of that illness as the badges of truly belonging to the group. So that those 'less advanced' in the ravages of the illness don't really know or really belong to the group. As a portrait of victims adopting to being victims it says much about us as humans - thoughtful readers may find it says far too much. I write this on World Aids Day.
Ishiguro writes the most nightmarish novels I've ever read. In others, such as The Unconsoled or When We Were Orphans the nightmare feeling is due to the dreamlike oddity of the interconnection of events in the story. One reads these books in much the same way that one wakes from a disturbing dream, with feelings of disorientation and anxiety. Even though this is the most literal 'nightmare book' of his I have read - the world he creates being literally a nightmare, and made all the worse by being set in the recent past - it is a book totally lacking in that strange dreamlike quality so characteristic of these other novels. In this sense it seemed less of a nightmare than these others. If you struggled with these, you will not struggle with this in quite the same way.
He also has fascinating and quite painful things to say about the nature of love and how love has a proper time, a time that may be lost or missed. As someone who has loved, lost and missed I found this particularly challenging. The relationship between sex and love and illness is perhaps something people may find simply too much - not because this is handled in any way that is too explicit, but because I do believe we like to think that sex, as a manifestation of love, has curative and redemptive powers. A book that questions this, questions something we hold very dear and some readers may find this too much to ask.
This is also a book about betrayal. The betrayals we commit against those we love the most and yet that we barely can understand or explain after we have committed them - these are constant throughout the book. He is a writer all too aware of the human condition. The scene which gives the book its title is a wonderful example of the near impossibility of our being understood by others and yet our endless desire for just such an understanding.
There is nothing easy about reading this book - although it is written in the simplest of prose. It has an honesty of feeling that brands one's soul.
I loved this book and have thought about it a lot since I finished reading it and will think about it more. There is much more I would like to say, but there is no space. May we all be good carers before we complete.
The themes that make this book most interesting are to do with the social alienation of groups of people on the basis of inherited genetic characteristics. In fact, as a critique of racism this book is utterly brilliant. Those being racially alienated are genetically identical (they are in fact clones) to those attacking them.
Plato believed those 'in the know' should tell lies to those 'who do not know' so as to protect them from the all too horrible truths about life. I have always hated this aspect of Plato, always finding it grotesque and frightening in its implications. Those implications are drawn out in all their disturbing horror here.
This book has much to say about the nature of 'illness' and how those inflicted with an 'illness' use the scars of that illness as the badges of truly belonging to the group. So that those 'less advanced' in the ravages of the illness don't really know or really belong to the group. As a portrait of victims adopting to being victims it says much about us as humans - thoughtful readers may find it says far too much. I write this on World Aids Day.
Ishiguro writes the most nightmarish novels I've ever read. In others, such as The Unconsoled or When We Were Orphans the nightmare feeling is due to the dreamlike oddity of the interconnection of events in the story. One reads these books in much the same way that one wakes from a disturbing dream, with feelings of disorientation and anxiety. Even though this is the most literal 'nightmare book' of his I have read - the world he creates being literally a nightmare, and made all the worse by being set in the recent past - it is a book totally lacking in that strange dreamlike quality so characteristic of these other novels. In this sense it seemed less of a nightmare than these others. If you struggled with these, you will not struggle with this in quite the same way.
He also has fascinating and quite painful things to say about the nature of love and how love has a proper time, a time that may be lost or missed. As someone who has loved, lost and missed I found this particularly challenging. The relationship between sex and love and illness is perhaps something people may find simply too much - not because this is handled in any way that is too explicit, but because I do believe we like to think that sex, as a manifestation of love, has curative and redemptive powers. A book that questions this, questions something we hold very dear and some readers may find this too much to ask.
This is also a book about betrayal. The betrayals we commit against those we love the most and yet that we barely can understand or explain after we have committed them - these are constant throughout the book. He is a writer all too aware of the human condition. The scene which gives the book its title is a wonderful example of the near impossibility of our being understood by others and yet our endless desire for just such an understanding.
There is nothing easy about reading this book - although it is written in the simplest of prose. It has an honesty of feeling that brands one's soul.
I loved this book and have thought about it a lot since I finished reading it and will think about it more. There is much more I would like to say, but there is no space. May we all be good carers before we complete.
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The other was the way it left me thinking almost endlessly about the characters and about what was going on.
One of the masterful things about the book is the way it effortlessly introduces its own terms and they are totally believable. So the idea that the individuals who have been cloned from other human beings are fascinated by human beings who might be their 'possibles' is wonderful. Completely 'true'.
And the idea that after four 'donations' one has 'completed'. That is marvellous too. There's a whole world simply in the acceptance and implementation of those terms.
I was fascinated by the narrator and by what she doesn't say, and also by what the novel doesn't do. If this were Orwell and 1964 we would see an attempt by the 'cloned' individuals to fight for their right to exist as individuals, even if that fight failed. But they don't fight. They wholly accept their role in life, and that makes them (and especially the narrator) feel curiously alien, and at the same time curiously real. It's in TV drama that people fight their fates. In reality, they are socialised into accepting them, no matter how unacceptable they are.
It is a terribly sad book. A tragedy.
I do think the weakness is in the last eighth of the book when Ishiguro explains far too much. He was so very good at leaving the reader to accept a world which could be imagined if not fully understood that he didn't need that artificial section at the end in which the teachers explained the world and the thinking behind it. But the short section on the field in high wind where Kathy and Tom have to cling onto each other to stand upright -- that is a marvellous image.
Somebody will make a film out of this novel and people will weep at the end.
Trevor -- the way you noticed the exploration of sexuality and illness -- yes, yes, -that too is so fascinating, and so taboo. And in this novel, subtly understated and therefore potent. Understatement is one of Ishiguro's great strengths. What the characters *don't* have is never underlined -- but they are fatally isolated. They have no families, no cousins or mothers or fathers or aunts. Their peer relationships are all they have, and even those relationships are deficient. It's like the 'real' side of the sitcom *Friends* where everything seems harmonious and at the same time unnatural, because our strongest relationships are rarely with our peers actually, except on tv and among the dispossessed. And also like the nostalgia for childhood novels -- the Enid Blyton novels set in boarding schools, where all the relationships are with other children and the teachers are slightly remote romantic characters.
I was fascinated by the way the characters remembered different details out of their shared past experience, and got slightly annoyed when their friends didn't quite remember it the same way. The past is treacherous in this respect. Baby, baby, never let me go. This novel doesn't let you go. You keep thinking about it. That's good writing for you.

As Ani Difranco says, "I never thought I could accept all these dark colours, as just part of some bigger colour scheme" - but the dark makes the light so much lighter. The final tragedy of life isn't that we didn't fight against the dark, but perhaps that we never saw it was just as important as the light.

I also agree with the previous comment about this book should be classed more as a dystopian. I knew nothing about the book when I read it and even when I finished it would never have thought to class it as science fiction until I read the reviews on Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ.





Thanks- I'm definitely going to give it a try now...someday! :)

I think this comment sums it up beautifully:
"There is nothing easy about reading this book - although it is written in the simplest of prose. It has an honesty of feeling that brands one's soul."








Eccentric Muse, excellent, don't let me miss your review if you do read it. I start back at Uni soon and so will disappear again for a few months I'm particularly fond of this book. Have you ever read The Unconsoled? I read it before coming on this site and wouldn't know how to review that book now. He out Kafka's Kafka in it. It is like The Castle only more so.
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1) dystopias - I need to close the loop on Butler, then Atwood's The Year of the Flood, and then maybe Oryx Crake
2) Ishiguro - first NLMG, then this one (I think?)
3) War & Peace - I promised! I shall not fail!
4) everything else on my top-of-the-nightstand shelf, seven of which just arrived in a box marked amazon.ca today
Job? who has time for a job?
SPOILER! Ending Spoiler!
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I think he missed an opportunity to humanize the main characters a little more. I wanted Kathy to get outraged a little. To care a little more. Just a little!! I think he dehumanized them to the point where I couldn't care about them.
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I think he missed an opportunity to humanize the main characters a little more. I wanted Kathy to get outraged a little. To care a little more. Just a little!! I think he dehumanized them to the point where I couldn't care about them.

Hmmmm....and I was so frustrated. I should try another of his, but i was mad at him. :)



It's up. :-)
I feel almost like I read a different book than you, Trevor. I was not able to read between the lines as you were. I see that's where he wanted me to go, but I couldn't get there.
I'm definitely in the minority re my opinion on this one.
Maria, I agree with your animal comparison. I considered that as a possible parallel, too.


Somebody did and they probably will.



here is a round-table discussion on the topic on a show ironically on the early days of the scifi network:
In short, the things you think of as science used as plot device or typical allegorical stories cloaked in futuristic or fantastic worlds is sci-fi. Sci-fi is pulp.
Science fiction is serious writing and conceptual investigation in literary environments that are also based on the worlds of the future or future past. Science fiction is authenticity.
The distinction is not always clear. Star Trek deals with some deep concepts from time to time but ultimately its just a swashbuckling story in the future. Similarly for Star Wars. But Solaris is a highly abstract, serious work of science fiction. It just happens to take place in a future involved with space travel. The Children of Men could be considered in this light or the Handmaids Tale (Happy Bday Ms. Atwood). Hope you can start to see the difference here. Bottom line is science fiction is not a pejorative.


I also found 'A Pale View of Hills' quite nightmarish but a little more subtle, even ambiguous than 'Never Let Me Go'. Both are as heartbreaking as each other.
Thanks for the review.



I'm becoming increasingly troubled by the whole idea of identity - how we go about defining who we really are. All too often we define who we are by the friction caused by one of the things that make us up rubbing against those around us. Sorry, this is getting to be all too long, but last year I heard someone talk about identity and it has stuck with me. He talked about a woman who was Catholic in Scotland (as they do the whole Catholic / Protestant thing there nearly as well as they do in Northern Ireland), and then she stopped being Catholic in Northern England (because people didn't really care about her religion, but did care she was Scottish) and so she 'became' Scottish there. And then she went to Oxford where people stopped caring about her being from Scotland (there were people there from all over the world) but what stood out about her was that she was working class. We define who we are too often by how we are different, by the parts of our selves that we need to protect in opposition to the others around us (particularly those in 'power'). So, there are gay communities and good reads communities and other such communities for people who do things the rest of society doesn't like and so need the protection of like minded souls.
I think in the end Kathy reminded Tommy of who he had been, rather than who he had become. I wonder if there was ever a relationship that didn't end for exactly that reason?

That's how I know when something has really affected me (magazne, book, tv, movie, or conversation), when I think about it for three days afterward.

If I ever needed the money then the religion I would set up would be based on the idea that not only do you get to live many lives, but that you actually get to be everyone - you get to live the lives of everyone who has ever lived. The people you don't like in life now are the lives you didn't live very well and so the point of this religion would be to encourage you to have another go at trying to understand that part of yourself now. Can't quite work out how to make any money from this idea just yet, which probably only proves that I'm more likely to be the religion's first martyr than first priest.
My main fear, Carol, is that it just might be the case all of the traits we find we dislike in the older people around us may be a kind of dreadful premonition of the person we are about to become. Now there's a scary thought. As I guess there is no reason to think we might like our older selves any more than we might like our younger selves.



At the end of Book 2 while Socrates is discussing the poets he makes it clear that he considers their stories of the gods to be what he calls ‘lies� � but interestingly, what he means by a lie is that, even if these stories are literally true, the fact that they will have a bad effect on the young means these stories should not be told. Essentially Plato’s argument is that since the higher truth is that the gods are perfect (and it is impossible to conceive the perfect lying in any way � changing shape, disagreeing over ends, etc) and the stories about the gods make them appear to be less than perfect, then we must not tell these stories about the gods.
In book 3 he states, “Then if any one at all is to have the privilege of lying, the rulers of the State should be the persons; and they, in their dealings either with enemies or with their own citizens, may be allowed to lie for the public good.� And then proposes that the ideal state would be one in which citizens are lied to about the nature of their births saying that citizens are all brothers and sisters, but that some have gold in their souls, some silver and some bronze. These are designed to convince everyone of two necessary ideas - their fundamental identity with the state and why there are necessary differences in rank.
Most fiction that recalls the Republic to me does so on this point � that there is a fundamental truth that rulers need to sustain (a well ordered society) and this forgives them lying generally about the true nature of the world. The whole philosopher king idea is essentially based on such a ruler lying to the rest of the citizens � although, lying may seem strong, given Plato doesn’t believe the hoi polloi can cope with the truth in its purest forms anyway, and so lies of omission are both necessary and good.
Was there ever a ruler (take Rupert Murdoch as a current day example � a man who, it seemed, had to anoint even Obama before he could become President) who did not believe that their lies were necessitated by the limits that the lesser around them had in their ability to fully appreciate the truth? This view of our betters knowing what is best for us and protecting us from the full nature of this truth is the true horror of Plato’s vision, to me at least.