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Blood Meridian, or, the Evening Redness in the West
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There are two ways to evaluate a book, as far as my unlearned mind can concoct at the moment. Stylish literary flourishes sometimes cloud our judgment when it comes to evaluating the plot itself, which is, after all, the reason why the book exists.
This book is well written. If I'm a 11th grader, and I need to do a book report, I'm drooling over the blatant symbolism dripping from each page. The scene is set admirably, though the repetitive nature of our brave hero's wanderings (at least it's with symbolic reason) lead to a paucity in novel adjectives by the 13th desert crossing. There are only so many ways one can say that it's hot, dry and empty. And dry. Boy, that sun sure is strong. I'm there, I'm with you, all right, it sucks around here, phew, the sun's really beating down today. And there are a lot of bones. Dead things abound, OK, I get it.
Then there's the story line. Explain to me again why I'm interested in the wanton marauding of a band of depraved demons? So, we enjoy the dashing of infants into rocks because of the supposed literary merits of the work? We can bash/splatter/expose brains of whatever, happen upon crucified corpses, and ignore any modicum of human decency because the book is about something deeper? But, you say (and without quotes you say it), that's what it was like. Oh yeah? It was like that? Says who? Why do you want to believe that it was like that? As bad as humankind is, our reality is not that despicable, though our souls may be. Why do we have to play follow the leader behind our impish pied piper, pretending an enlightened understanding of some grandiose truth, while all we really do is sate our own personal blood lusts? I wonder.
By the way, if neglecting quotation marks somehow makes the book classier, why not just go all out and remove spaces between words. You better believe I won't be speed reading the repetitive descriptions of how tired everyone is if there aren't any spaces. Why stop there, periods are for two bit hacks too. You're not a real author until you slaughter a few hundred non-innocents (nay, no one is innocent) while neglecting a basic courtesy to the reader.
Who knows, I don't speak Spanish, maybe I'm just missing the point entirely. How do you say "flayed skin" in Spanish?
This book is well written. If I'm a 11th grader, and I need to do a book report, I'm drooling over the blatant symbolism dripping from each page. The scene is set admirably, though the repetitive nature of our brave hero's wanderings (at least it's with symbolic reason) lead to a paucity in novel adjectives by the 13th desert crossing. There are only so many ways one can say that it's hot, dry and empty. And dry. Boy, that sun sure is strong. I'm there, I'm with you, all right, it sucks around here, phew, the sun's really beating down today. And there are a lot of bones. Dead things abound, OK, I get it.
Then there's the story line. Explain to me again why I'm interested in the wanton marauding of a band of depraved demons? So, we enjoy the dashing of infants into rocks because of the supposed literary merits of the work? We can bash/splatter/expose brains of whatever, happen upon crucified corpses, and ignore any modicum of human decency because the book is about something deeper? But, you say (and without quotes you say it), that's what it was like. Oh yeah? It was like that? Says who? Why do you want to believe that it was like that? As bad as humankind is, our reality is not that despicable, though our souls may be. Why do we have to play follow the leader behind our impish pied piper, pretending an enlightened understanding of some grandiose truth, while all we really do is sate our own personal blood lusts? I wonder.
By the way, if neglecting quotation marks somehow makes the book classier, why not just go all out and remove spaces between words. You better believe I won't be speed reading the repetitive descriptions of how tired everyone is if there aren't any spaces. Why stop there, periods are for two bit hacks too. You're not a real author until you slaughter a few hundred non-innocents (nay, no one is innocent) while neglecting a basic courtesy to the reader.
Who knows, I don't speak Spanish, maybe I'm just missing the point entirely. How do you say "flayed skin" in Spanish?
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I am also glad to know that I am not the only one who is bothered by fragments and run-on sentences.

This is a frighteningly naive and complacent comment. Untold millions of people have been killed just as brutally as in Blood Meridian. Why don't you go to the library and read accounts about the 1994 Rwanda genocide, during which people had to watch their own family members be raped and hacked into pieces with machetes. How about the mass graves in Kosovo filled with the bullet-riddled bodies of children.
There's no accounting for taste, so there's nothing wrong with you not digging McCarthy's prose, but I just cannot believe that a functioning adult could make a statement so staggeringly ignorant.

Is McCarthy part of the solution or part of the problem? Are the video games and glorify violence a fact of life - to be lauded for their realism, or a means to prey on our inner corruption to turn a profit? Do they make us better or worse?
It is a telling look into a person's mind that they would want to research such travesties - I'm sure there was some sadistic pleasure to be derived from it.
"So staggeringly ignorant"...melodramatic much Tyler?

"So staggeringly ignorant"...melodramatic much Tyler?
And it's also rather melodramatic to call a person who would rather read the unvarnished truth of history sadistic because they voluntarily research these topics, don't you think?
It really doesn't take much to discover these sort of stories in history. They're on every page. Read Lies My Teacher Told Me if you don't believe me.

What? Two things:
1. What do video games have to do with this?
2. Cormac McCarthy has never "glorified" ANYTHING (good or bad) in any of his books, ever. In fact, the violence in "Blood Meridian" serves the opposite purpose. This isn't the stylized violence of Western movies where the good guy (white hat) and the bad guy (black hat) stare each other down, exchange iconic dialogue and then shoot one another to end the dance. This is chaos, it is madness, and it is complete, bitter emptiness. The narrative flourish is what makes it all kind of beautiful. I've read sunsets in this book more beautiful than anything I've ever seen with my own eyes.
Now if you're condemning the book for its nihilism, would you cast the same judgment upon Conrad for "Heart of Darkness?" Shakespeare for "King Lear?" There are plenty of great stories of human courage and decency, but what good is hindsight if we just ram our fingers in our ears whenever the darker side comes up? Our history's chock full of monsters and plenty of them have interesting enough stories.

Provocative thought. I mean, either you're interested or you're not. Is it the writer's job to account for all the many thousands of interests of his many thousands of readers? I think something Cormac did in this novel was write about a piece of history we hadn't really seen take shape in fiction before. Interesting in it itself, no? -- which isn't to say every reader ought to be interested...

This is a frighteningly naive and complacent comment."
Reminds me of something the author himself said about his message with The Road:
"Just simply care about things and people and be more appreciative. Life is pretty damn good, even when it looks bad, and we should appreciate it more. We should be grateful. I don't know who to be grateful to, but you should be thankful for what you have."

With all due respect, says who?

"...the plot itself, which is, after all, the reason why the book exists" has to be the absolutely dumbest and ill-informed idea I've ever read on this website. This isn't even a matter of being subjective, as there are thousands of authors who would completely disagree, and I hate to break it to you, but you certainly don't have a better understanding of "the book" than ANY novelist out there. Your idea's just ridiculous, and it's really hard to take anything else you say seriously after that. I couldn't be more curious as to what YOU consider to be a decent book. I'd really love to hear a list of novels that resonated deeply with you.




When I read Blood Meridian, it was the first time my stomach turned at words on a page. Reading and then subsequently digesting the book required an adjustment inside. I can't say that I loved it nor did I despise it. It's just stuck in there now and it will be forever.
If anyone has any doubt as to the unspeakable violence that occurred in the opening up of the West, read Empire of the Summer Moon by S.C. Gwynne. A brilliant historical account of the Comanche in what is now Texas. I naively believed McCarthy had embellished the gore. Sadly, the reality of what took place was likely much worse than even the sickest moments in Blood Meridian.
It's hard to stomach but yes, the brutal violence of the time did really happen whether we want to believe it did or not, in ways far worse than most of us living in this part of the world two centuries later can remotely appreciate.



I get that some readers are turned off by the violence, but I think it's honesty. When we turn away from violent scenes in literature ( or at least in a book like this) we're doing mankind a disservice. I cringed at the violence too, but I suppose the difference is that I see what McCarthy is doing. You can't wrap your mind around a simple headline : "1000 dead in terrorist attack", it's too big a number. You may be disgusted by the act and you obviously know what it means, but if you actually saw it, it would hurt your soul. And McCarthy is one who wants to drive the point that far. If you want to ignore something, you give raw data. If you want to make it a living thing, you give it context and action. That's what he did. You see how terrible these people are, how ruthless just about every man in this period was. It maybe fiction but I feel the portrayal of man is accurate. It's a reminder.
I also don't seem to get your point on McCarthy's lack of punctuation. I think certain authors can get away with it, if they craft the dialogue right. Hubert Selby did it, and it was great. I see it as Cormac essentially views his books as a form of spoken story telling. Like you were hearing it around a fire or face to face, and I appreciate that. Not everyone can, and I don't say that to slight anyone who doesn't : different strokes I guess. I realize not everyone is going to love every book and I suppose if they did, reading might be more of a chore and less interesting, so I'll close by saying I do respect your opinion, and I think at least it was well thought out and honest.

Also, I would like to point out that for people like me, white middle class straight guys living in Canada who haven't experienced much violence in their lives, it might seem a novel experience to witness this kind of violence, but to those who have had to endure systemic violence, whether it be domestic, racial, etc, I wonder whether we really ought to be advising each other to embrace the raw honesty. That's a fairly privileged view to hold, and while I definitely agree with it to an extent, I just want to acknowledge that the readers of books are not a homogenous group, and that someone deciding not to subject themself to the violence in this book is not inherently dishonest.





Liberals.



Further, I can't think of a day that's gone by when I haven't witnessed someone scalp someone else. The news doesn't even bother covering minor genocides anymore. Go big or go home!
So yes, you're correct. I was so naive, and the world really is, on average, just as cruel (not to mention hot, dry, and sunny in a lip chapping sort of way) as you say. I'm glad there are plenty of people around whose personal proclivities are so finely tuned to the realities of this world. It's a refreshing reminder.
Thanks again for the feedback.

I really meant no disrespect on my comment. As I said your opinion is your own. You may not think the world is as brutal and dark as this book portrays in the modern day, but it most certainly has been historically, specifically during the period in which this book is set. Much of life during this era (especially for the type of people focused on in this story) was exactly this brutal and even worse. Just because you didn't like the brutality of the story doesn't mean it was exaggerated or even unnecessary.
You seem a bit like you are taking comments a little too personally. It isn't personal when someone disagrees with you.
As for modern day horrors in real life. Make no mistake there is enough brutality to go around in 2017. To ignore that, or even make light of it as you seem to do, shows that you are not very aware of the world around you. We may not be bashing babies heads into rocks, but things like genocide are very much a part of the world today. There is also terrorism, rape, murder (including children), and a whole litany of other terrible things. Just recently, a woman attempting to report a sexual assault was shot and killed by a POLICE OFFICER, so you can't exactly behave in a way or even believe that there is not darkness and brutality all around you.
You criticize a beautifully written work of art for portraying a darkness that is very real for no other reason than you prefer to believe the world is full of rainbows and hand-holding, When in actuality, you live in a world that is constantly trying to burn everything to the ground in spectacular fashion.
Please don't take this personally as an attack, it is not.

The angry defense of the beauty of this book reminds me of the ripple effect of one art gallery deeming a misshapen red dot on a blank canvas a genius work of art. . .and then everyone else tells themselves they too see the genius! I think it's fine if you like the red dot and hang it on your wall, but there's no need to go around telling people they are ignorant if they don't see its magnificence. :)
A better book about the violence and hardship of frontier life in the 1800s is Shadow Country (Peter Matthiessen). It is also historical fiction, involves many murders and other horrible events, but the main character is both sympathetic and loathsome, and the story manages to stay interesting even though it's 900+ pages.

This book is pure art and is not lauded by mindless trend-followers as you imply. It is critically acclaimed. You compare Matthiessen to McCarthy? The former is known for having been in the CIA and writing about nature; the latter is a Pulitzer Prize winner. Please don't pretend as if this is some low-brow novel for gratuitous violence seekers. Maybe that is what it is to you. We all see things differently.
This work is meant to hold a mirror up to humanity. We are the only species on the planet that tortures, humiliates, avenges, etc. You may not need to read this, but for sure some do.
And Eric,
No your local radio station did not have a baby-killing contest. But that is kind of the whole point of the book. We don't see such horrors in the West, for the most part. But atrocities are going on. Knowing the depth of human depravity is a valuable thing. There probably was more death in the last Avengers movie. I don't know, I don't go for such tripe. My point is, the way the violence is depicted shows us what can happen. To soldiers. To prisoners. To a mob on the street. We are capable of great evil. Knowing that can prevent it.

I don't think it's low-brow at all. Really, the kind of person who "needs to read this" would never read it.
And if you read Shadow Country and hated it, I would not be outraged. It's not for everyone. But it sounds like you read the first paragraph of Matthiessen's Wikipedia page. Shadow Country was a National Book Award Winner, not a spy/nature novel, lol.
There is a lot of anger on this thread. It's just a book! Why read two-star reviews of books you love? :)






I do enjoy checking in every few years to see if people are still arguing about this. Glad to have been of service.

says who bro


i do think there is merit in depicting violence. it makes us uncomfortable, but that is the point. violence is uncomfortable. reading about human cruelty is not fun but unfortunately human cruelty is real. this book does not romanticize violence and attempts to show the reality of this part of history. I think it will dissuade more people from violent behavior than encourage violent behavior.
I also understand that it is not for you, but if you find nothing morally wrong with movies and books that depict violence without its realistic brutality (movies and books that are interested in heroism and 'cool' fights), but do find something morally wrong with Blood Meridian, I find that a bit hypocritical.

Me: not recommended for people naive and/or willfully ignorant to the very real acts of evil committed regularly by humans.
The atrocities committed in this book don’t hold a candle to some nonfictional historical events.
The violence portrayed in Blood Meridian is jarring and the reader should ask, “is there anything that this group of brigands won’t do?� And the answer is no. It is April 30th, 2022. Today a man killed 5 of his neighbors including an 8-year old boy with an assault rifle outside of Houston. On March 5, 2019 Brenton Tarrant live-streamed an attack on two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand and killed 51 people. On august 19, 2014 James Foley was beheaded with a hunting knife, millions of people saw it online. On July 22, 2011 Anders Behring Breivik killed 77 people and wounded 319 others in a bombing and shooting attack in Norway.
This list could fill a whole book with nothing but names and dates. The genocides, pogroms, ethnic cleansing, war crimes, torture, atomic bombings of civilian populations…You should ask yourself� Is there anything that these people won’t do. And the answer is no.
This doesn’t mean that humanity as a whole is inherently evil.
Every day all around us kind acts small and large are occurring. In 2022 Steve Wilson donated one of his kidneys to a complete stranger, he was inspired by someone who did the same in 2019. In February a 17 year-old boy in Iowa risked his life to save an 83 year-old man and his dog from their sinking Jeep after it broke through the ice.
This list too could go on endlessly.
The point is that good and evil are obviously not mutually exclusive. Acts of varying degrees of good and evil are occurring constantly across the planet.
Blood Meridian doesn’t say that good doesn’t exist, or that people are inherently evil. It says “take a look at what you are capable of. What you have done, and what you will do yet.
If reality makes you uncomfortable, so be it.


