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Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe (Aristotle and Dante, #1)
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I have been saving this book. Just waiting for the right moment for us to come together and love one another. And this book is fine, I guess. It's okay. But I really don't see the magic that prompted so many five star ratings and literary awards.
It's weird because I was sure we were meant for each other. A Printz Honor book featuring a gay romance between two quirky characters - one of whom is a rough guy who gets into fights and has a complicated relationship with his father; the other being a sweet and sensitive boy who loves his poetry. Throw in some philosophical musings and a generous helping of poetic teen angst and you should be serving up a new favourite of mine, right?
Apparently not.
I love deep, complex and emotional contemporary YA that reminds me why I still read books aimed at teens. But, you know, I just didn't find this book as deep and meaningful as it was obviously trying to be. There were some intriguing passages thrown in that were clearly meant to tickle our inner emos, like:
And:
But it all felt like a good old example of trying too hard. The characters of Aristotle and Dante are two very different individuals who form an instant connection and go on to become close friends, but they never seemed like anything but caricatures of angsty teens with the pretentious poetry reading and frequent philosophical phrases that made me cringe.
The dialogue was particularly unrealistic. There are some writers who can pull off floaty poetic speech between their characters, and then there are those who fail to sound more than fake, overdone and scripted. In my opinion, this book was in the latter category. However, I feel this way about John Green and everyone seems to love him too, so it's hardly surprising that I once again find myself in the minority.
Not only does the constant waxing poetic feel a bit off, but the rest of the time we're treated to a choppy, fragmented narrative that gave me flashbacks to The Perks of Being a Wallflower. For example:
I think I get what this book was trying to do and I also get what many people probably thought it was doing... but I can point you towards authors who do a similar kind of thing and make it seem less cheesy and far more real and meaningful: A.S.King, Melina Marchetta, Matthew Quick and Sara Zarr, to name but a few. When compared to the works of those authors, these characters and this writing just pale in comparison. In my opinion, anyway.
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It's weird because I was sure we were meant for each other. A Printz Honor book featuring a gay romance between two quirky characters - one of whom is a rough guy who gets into fights and has a complicated relationship with his father; the other being a sweet and sensitive boy who loves his poetry. Throw in some philosophical musings and a generous helping of poetic teen angst and you should be serving up a new favourite of mine, right?
Apparently not.
I love deep, complex and emotional contemporary YA that reminds me why I still read books aimed at teens. But, you know, I just didn't find this book as deep and meaningful as it was obviously trying to be. There were some intriguing passages thrown in that were clearly meant to tickle our inner emos, like:
“The problem with my life was that it was someone else’s idea.�
And:
“I wondered what it was we were laughing about. Was it just our names? Were we laughing because we were relieved? Were we happy? Laughter was another one of life’s mysteries.�
But it all felt like a good old example of trying too hard. The characters of Aristotle and Dante are two very different individuals who form an instant connection and go on to become close friends, but they never seemed like anything but caricatures of angsty teens with the pretentious poetry reading and frequent philosophical phrases that made me cringe.
The dialogue was particularly unrealistic. There are some writers who can pull off floaty poetic speech between their characters, and then there are those who fail to sound more than fake, overdone and scripted. In my opinion, this book was in the latter category. However, I feel this way about John Green and everyone seems to love him too, so it's hardly surprising that I once again find myself in the minority.
Not only does the constant waxing poetic feel a bit off, but the rest of the time we're treated to a choppy, fragmented narrative that gave me flashbacks to The Perks of Being a Wallflower. For example:
“When I got home, I sat on my front porch.
I watched the sun set.
I felt alone, but not in a bad way. I really liked being alone. Maybe I liked it too much. Maybe my father was like that too.
I thought of Dante and wondered about him.�
I think I get what this book was trying to do and I also get what many people probably thought it was doing... but I can point you towards authors who do a similar kind of thing and make it seem less cheesy and far more real and meaningful: A.S.King, Melina Marchetta, Matthew Quick and Sara Zarr, to name but a few. When compared to the works of those authors, these characters and this writing just pale in comparison. In my opinion, anyway.
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I think the problem was that you approached it with too much expectations and that made you look at it more critically. Never mind, better luck next time (on the next book?), right!? :)


I'm NOT ALONE IN THIS WORLD
THIS FEELS SO LIBERATING, DO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND? I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO GOT TIRED OF ALL ZE MELODRAMA AND WRITING AND CHARACTERS.
<3

Sorry this one did not work out better for you!

Amazing review.


Agreed. And yeah, pretty sure it was :)

I agree completely with everything you said. The author was just trying way to hard and I didn't like his writing style at all!

So yeah. Hated the book XD



I'm glad you enjoyed it :) I think maybe it was difficult for me not to compare it to similar books I loved so much more.

I even thought the reason why he acted that way was because his brother rape him, or maybe he has a father complex.
But because i guess ive approach it in a curios way, maybe because of its title, i don't know. i find this book really good. worth of my time, i can say, i hope you reread this book again and enjoy it the way we did.



Although I'm still gonna read the book. I'm only on page 56 so maybe my opinion would change.







2. Sometimes the author would use a metaphor and I didn't get it at all.
3. Ari and Dante were laughing at everything (and for no reason most of the time).
4. Dialogue was hard to read for the first 200 pages or so. I guess I just got used to it.
5. I think this book is a good book. If all the previous problems were resolved, it could be a 5 star for me. I did like the characters (even if they seemed slightly underdeveloped).
*spoiler*
6. *spoiler* when Ari was explaining who his brother killed, he calls the prostitute a 'transvestite'. As this book is set in the late 1980s, I do get how a trans woman might be called a transvestite. But if the prostitute was genuinely a transvestite/crossdresser, well then I guess this point has no standing. But yeah it just rubbed me the wrong way.
It was a good book. I just wish I didn't have so many problems.


He knew he was gay. He knew from an early point in his life. He just couldn't face it. I was a lot like him. The "choppy fragmented narrative" rang true to me because that is how some people talk. People who aren't great with words. They use simple words to convey impossibly large feelings. Could the narrative have been better? I guess. But then it wouldn't have been true to Ari. We wouldn't have gotten a genuine look inside his head.
and for "beesp", he didn't decide he was gay because his parents told him. He was given permission to be his authentic self when the two people he loved the most recognized it. He was able to look at the "thing" in him that he tried to avoid because he knew he'd have their support. When you are in the closet, you believe all these irrational fears about coming out, including your family and friends not loving you. And no, he never questioned himself because he already knew the answer and didn't want to face it.



I share the same thoughts about this book. I felt like the writer was trying too hard to express feelings in a poetical and philosophical way, which made me cringe from time to time. I was expecting more, but on that level the book failed on me.
Keeping this aside, it is an “ok� read that definitely has some good and gripping parts in it