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醿愥儧醿斸儬醿樶儥醿a儦醿� 醿氠儤醿⑨償醿犪儛醿⑨儯醿犪儤醿� 醿儩醿儺醿愥儦醿� 醿欋儦醿愥儭醿樶儥醿濁儭醿� - 醿め儤醿氠儤醿� 醿犪儩醿椺儤 (1933) 醿愥儬醿愥償醿犪儣醿� 醿戓儬醿儳醿樶儨醿曖儛醿氠償 醿犪儩醿涐儛醿溼儤醿� 醿愥儠醿⑨儩醿犪儤醿�, 醿椺儯醿涐儶醿� 鈥濁優醿濁儬醿⑨儨醿濁儤醿� 醿♂儤醿溼儞醿犪儩醿涐儤鈥� 醿涐儛醿� 醿ㄡ儩醿犪儤醿� 醿п儠醿斸儦醿愥儢醿� 醿儨醿濁儜醿樶儦醿樶儛. 1969 醿償醿氠儭 醿掅儛醿涐儩醿償醿涐儯醿氠儧醿� 醿儤醿掅儨醿涐儛 醿愥儧醿斸儬醿樶儥醿愥儴醿� 醿樶儭醿斸儣醿樶儠醿� 醿曖儨醿斸儜醿愥儣醿愥儲醿斸儦醿曖儛 醿掅儛醿涐儩醿樶儸醿曖儤醿�, 醿犪儩醿掅儩醿犪儤醿� 醿椺儛醿曖儤醿� 醿撫儬醿濁儢醿� 醿曖儦醿愥儞醿樶儧醿樶儬 醿溼儛醿戓儩醿欋儩醿曖儤醿� 鈥濁儦醿濁儦醿樶儮醿愥儧鈥� 醿撫儛 醿搬償醿溼儬醿� 醿涐儤醿氠償醿犪儤醿� 鈥濁儥醿樶儬醿┽儺醿樶儜醿樶儭 醿⑨儬醿濁優醿樶儥醿涐儛鈥�.

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340 pages, Hardcover

First published January 1, 1969

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Philip Roth

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Philip Milton Roth was an American novelist and short-story writer. Roth's fiction鈥攐ften set in his birthplace of Newark, New Jersey鈥攊s known for its intensely autobiographical character, for philosophically and formally blurring the distinction between reality and fiction, for its "sensual, ingenious style" and for its provocative explorations of American identity. He first gained attention with the 1959 short story collection Goodbye, Columbus, which won the U.S. National Book Award for Fiction. Ten years later, he published the bestseller Portnoy's Complaint. Nathan Zuckerman, Roth's literary alter ego, narrates several of his books. A fictionalized Philip Roth narrates some of his others, such as the alternate history The Plot Against America.
Roth was one of the most honored American writers of his generation. He received the National Book Critics Circle award for The Counterlife, the PEN/Faulkner Award for Operation Shylock, The Human Stain, and Everyman, a second National Book Award for Sabbath's Theater, and the Pulitzer Prize for American Pastoral. In 2005, the Library of America began publishing his complete works, making him the second author so anthologized while still living, after Eudora Welty. Harold Bloom named him one of the four greatest American novelists of his day, along with Cormac McCarthy, Thomas Pynchon, and Don DeLillo. In 2001, Roth received the inaugural Franz Kafka Prize in Prague.

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February 19, 2014
Portnoy's Complaint was my first husband's favorite book, and he used to quote from it all the time. When we got divorced (it wasn't amicable), my lawyer asked how I'd feel about using that fact in court. I was strongly tempted but told him after careful consideration that it was below the belt.

As it turned out, my instincts were sound. The judge knew Philip Roth personally, and it would have been a disaster. I only discovered this several years later and was amazed at what a close call I'd had.
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November 2, 2010
It's recently been brought to my attention that my book reviews frequently are not actually about the book. And I'm wondering why would you want to know about the book when all you have to do is click on the little blurb about the book and then get on with the fascinating reading about...oh, say where I bought my milk last Tuesday or my fondest/most traumatic childhood memory, etc, etc.
And, yet. I aim to please so here is my sincere attempt to tell you something about this book. It (the book) goes something like this:
sex
sex
sex
sex
guilt
guilt
guilt
guilt
sex
sex
sex
guilt
guilt
moms fault
guilt
moms fault
moms fault
guilt
sex
sex
guilt
kinda dads fault too
mostly moms fault
guilt
sex
sex
sex
self loathing
Jewish loathing
protestant loathing
protestant awe
more jewish loathing
again with the Protestant loathing
sex
sex
guilt
guilt
guilt
guilt
partial reconciliation with perceptions of all things Jewish
attempt at sex
failure at sex
guilt
guilt
guilt
mom's fault

Now that I've, no doubt drawn you into the plot line and compelled you to pick up the book for yourself, let me share with you some of my personal thoughts on the book.
Growing up conservative/fundamentalist(?) Christian, I am no stranger to guilt. As a matter of fact some times I feel that Catholics and Jewish people think they have the market cornered on guilt, well, you know what? taint so. I got some pretty messed up voices going on in my head too, ya know. And maybe I can't articulate my guilt trips into clever phrases or pinpoint experiences but I can tell you that guilt taught me a thing or two.

1. If I don't pick up that clutter someone else is going to have to. When I was younger this meant my mom, whom after setting aside her career as an artist to raise 5 kids and nearly had (maybe did have at one point) a nervous breakdown from the lack of money, the accumulation of clutter and my argumentative nature. In my adult life this means the custodian, whom after leaving Vietnam as an educated person has to toil with 2 and sometimes 3 jobs to send his son (and seemingly only hope at respectability in this career driven society of ours) to college.

2. Flour is not cheap and ingredients are not to be wasted! oh, the shame, the shame of ruining yet ANOTHER batch of gingerbread men.

3. pre-marital sex is BAD. BAD! BAD! BAD! Offering yourself as anything less than a virgin to your someday husband is tantamount to giving someone a big bag of steaming compost with worms crawling through it for their birthday. The only thing worse than pre-marital sex is being gay.
*it might be worth noting here that there was some guilt reprieve and gargantuan amounts of titillating conversation regarding what exactly you COULD do, short of having sex but even that was fraught with the anxiety of "accidentally" having sex. and I"m still a little hazy on whether or not I can participate in oral sex. I'm assuming it's a no go, while (okay Catholics and Jewish people, I have to admit I've got it easier here) masturbating is okay AS LONG AS one doesn't start fantasizing about others while masturbating. Which you gotta hand it to them (wa-ha-ha) is that not the purest form of masturbation?

4. Paper is meant to be used and re-used and re-used and re-used and re-used. Buying new paper is an intolerable opulence reserved for gluttonous pigs and ONLY gluttonous pigs.
etc, etc, etc,

so, did I find Portnoy's excessive guilt to be unreasonable or unreadable, not at all. I found it to be hilarious in it's familiarity. Matter of fact I found most of the book to be hilarious, which I hadn't anticipated. Some passages that I found particularly amusing are as follows:

-when he ate pudding he shouldn't have, "Well, good Christ, how was I supposed to know all that, Hanna? Who looks into the fine points when he's hungry? I'm eight years old and chocolate pudding happens to get me hot.

-Talking to his "doctor", "All I do is complain, the repugnance seems, bottomless, and I'm beginning to wonder if maybe enough isn't enough. I hear myself indulging in the kind of ritualized bellyaching that is just what gives psychoanalytic patients such a bad name with the general public"

-a child hood sexual fantasy, "Her favorite line of prose is a masterpiece, 'Fuck my pussy, Fuckface, till I faint.' when I fart in the bathtub, she kneels naked on the tile floor, leans all the way over, and kisses the bubbles."

-While observing "goys" at the skating rink, "Jesus, look how guiltlessly they eat between meals! what girls!"

-about a non Jewish girlfriend, ".....played polo (yes, a games form on top of a horse!)

But humor aside, I also appreciated some other aspects of the story. I loved the line, "What I'm saying, Doctor, is that I don't seem to stick my dick up these girls, as much as I stick it up their backgrounds-as though through fucking I will discover America". I remember standing alone in NYC (coming from a small town in Oregon) at age 17 and seeing the enormous variety of people and thinking how great it would be to be with the deaf man, the black man, the man in a wheel chair, the businessman, etc,etc,etc. Thinking how much I would KNOW if I could be with all of them (not simultaneously - gross! and not to worry, mom-should you come across this- I wasn't thinking sleep with them, just dates ya know, just some museums trips and a dinner here or there. okay maybe some light petting too, but really that's as far as that fantasy went). In the end I didn't broaden my horizons that way, I ended up dating one guy. One very nice Jewish boy. But still, I like the idea.

And finally I'd like to say that I think I damn near cried at one point near the end and yes, I did also nearly cry this week when I saw a mud flap of that silhouetted naked lady because I so hate the "ideal" that society feels so comfortable imposing on us less than "perfect" females, and I was a little chocked up when my son said, "I like having you for a mom", and all of this near teary-ness might indicate a certain hormonal fluctuation orrrrrrrrr it might indicate that I'm a sensitive genius? consider. Regardless, I felt sorry for the pathetic schlep at one point.

And thus concludes my thorough look at Portnoy's complaints plot points as well as the ubiquitous ME, ME, ME portion of my review.
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May 23, 2018
Updated May 22, 2018: R.I.P. Philip Roth. Author of some of the defining works of the late 20th century (and even some of the early 21st). What a magnificent second act you had... and what a legacy you leave behind.

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21 Random Thoughts After Reading Philip Roth鈥檚 Classic Portnoy鈥檚 Complaint 46 Years After Its Controversial Publication



1. I鈥檝e read three or four Philip Roth books, but how have I never read this, which catapulted him to literary fame 鈥� or at least notoriety and celebrity 鈥� in the late 60s? Everyone's read it! Even Don Draper!




2. The young Roth sure was funny. We're talking laugh out loud, text-your-best-friends-favourite-lines, nearly pee your pants funny.

3. The guy was also rude and crude and鈥�. hmmm鈥�. okay, maybe I shouldn鈥檛 text that鈥� um鈥� where were we? Yes, he was rude and crude, shocking even by today鈥檚 standards.


Then again鈥�

4. It鈥檚 not really Roth saying these wild things but a fictional character 鈥� namely, Alexander Portnoy, a 30-something Jewish civil liberties attorney who鈥檚 got one big fat mother complex. Incidentally, Roth was born the same year (1933) and in the same city (Newark, NJ) as his protagonist. But they're not the same guy, got it?

Also:

5. In a brilliant structural device, the book is essentially Alex鈥檚 extended monologue to his psychotherapist, with Alex trying to find out why he鈥檚 so screwed up. His rant includes recounting his extreme sexual fantasies and fetishes, memories of chronic childhood masturbation habits and how he feels his persistent bachelorhood (he鈥檚 in his 30s! and not married! and likes shiksas!) is tied to his ambivalent relationship with his (castrating!) mother. So, we wouldn鈥檛 want to censor or harshly judge a fictional Jewish character鈥檚 scabrous stream of consciousness, right? (Two words, folks: Leopold Bloom.)

6. Oy gevalt! Fictional guilt-inducing Jewish mothers seem a lot like guilt-inducing Asian mothers.

7. Back then, it must have been a really big deal to be in your 30s and unmarried.

8. Just when you think 鈥淥edipus complex,鈥� Roth/Portnoy mentions Oedipus.

9. Woody Allen, who was doing stand-up at the time, must have been influenced by this book, not just in the artist-talking-to-therapist scenes but in the Jew-goes-to-WASP-girlfriend's-home-for-Thanksgiving scene in Annie Hall.



10. Even with the psychoanalyst set-up, Roth cleverly gets in stuff Portnoy wouldn鈥檛 necessarily tell his therapist, but which is richly detailed and adds to the novel鈥檚 texture. Smart.

11. The infamous liver scene makes the pastry-shtupping in American Pie (surely an homage) seem tame.



12. How funny is it that the book was published in 1969? 69, get it? (groan)

13. In 1969 it was way more acceptable to be misogynistic and homophobic in print. Not so funny today. (different kind of groan)

14. As Katie Roiphe points out in an excellent essay from , today鈥檚 literary male novelists (Dave Eggers, Jonathan Franzen, Michael Chabon) sure don鈥檛 write about sex the way Roth, Updike and Mailer did when they were their age.

15. There's an exuberance and a vitality to this novel that鈥檚 missing from a lot of the current literary fiction I read.

16. The book鈥檚 baseball sequences, memories, what have you鈥� I鈥檓 not even especially fond of the game, but Roth writes them with affection, tenderness and grace. And his portrait of middle-aged Jewish husband-dom is as sensitive and moving as his depiction of that era's discreet anti-Semitism is disturbing.

17. Not everything works (a trip to Israel, for instance), but damn this is still a fine book.

18. It was adapted into a movie starring Richard Benjamin (who also starred in his Goodbye, Columbus), and I recall seeing scenes from it late at night on TV, but it looked overdone and (checking the internet) it got really mixed reviews. So: thanks, but no thanks.

19. If you do want to see a movie that captures Roth鈥檚 anarchic, self-obsessed spirit, check out Alex Ross Perry鈥檚 Listen Up Philip, which pays homage to the man in the central character, title and even the font used in the marketing.



20. I鈥檝e always been fascinated by those American bestsellers from the late 60s to early 70s by writers dealing with the fallout of the sexual revolution. Now I鈥檓 curious about John Updike鈥檚 and Erica Jong鈥檚 .

But mostly鈥�

21. I want to read more Philip Roth.
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C卯nd Philip Roth a trimis la tipar Complexul lui Portnoy, 葯ansa lui de a primi premiul Nobel a devenit egal膬 cu zero. Cartea a st卯rnit un scandal uria葯. Au protestat puritanii, indivizii lipsi葲i de umor 葯i speciali葯tii 卯n simbolismul Cabbalei. 鈥濧ceasta este cartea pentru care s-au rugat to葲i anti-semi葲ii s膬 se publice鈥�, a exclamat savantul Gershom Scholem 卯ntr-o recenzie furibund膬.

Mul葲i jurnali葯ti au formulat ipoteza c膬 Philip Roth 葯i-a pierdut min葲ile. Al葲ii au vestit c膬 se afl膬 deja la ospiciu, 卯n c膬ma葯膬 de for葲膬. C卯葲iva rabbini au cerut eliminarea lui din societate. Ce-i drept, autorul nu-i portretizase cu prea mult膬 simpatie 卯n cartea de fa葲膬 (cf. pp.71, 185-186). Romanul a devenit bestseller: 卯n 1969, s-au v卯ndut 450.000 de exemplare.

Exist膬 romane 卯n care eroul se spovede葯te (葯i se justific膬) 卯n fa葲a unui judec膬tor, cel mai cunoscut e Lolita, romanul lui Nabokov, dar n-a葯 trece nici peste Hocus pocus al lui Kurt Vonnegut jr. 脦n Complexul lui Portnoy, protagonistul se spovede葯te unui psihanalist, preotul de tip nou al secolului XX, 葯i a葯teapt膬 un diagnostic precis. Philip Roth folose葯te ca epigraf al c膬r葲ii un pasaj din eseul 鈥濸enisul descump膬nit鈥�, publicat de psihologul O. Spielvogel 卯ntr-o prestigioas膬 revist膬 interna葲ional膬 de psihanaliz膬, pasaj care descrie esen葲a suferin葲ei eroului (Alex e clientul lui Spielvogel):
鈥濸acientul nu ob葲ine o satisfac葲ie sexual膬 real膬 nici din fantezii, nici din actul erotic 卯n sine, acestea provoc卯ndu-i, mai degrab膬, un sentiment cov卯r葯itor de ru葯ine 葯i groaza de a nu fi pedepsit [prin castrare]鈥� (p.5).

Alex Portnoy nu propune 鈥瀉socia葲ii libere鈥�, ci 卯葯i poveste葯te, furios pe sine 葯i pe umanitate, via葲a: a 卯mplinit deja 33 de ani, v卯rsta 卯ntreb膬rilor fundamentale. Chiar dac膬 卯n fa葲a unui psihanalist po葲i folosi toate cuvintele din vocabular, limbajul e obscen 葯i, de la un moment 卯ncolo, plicticos. Povestea cap膬t膬 miez abia 卯n partea a doua, c卯nd Alex Portnoy a devenit func葲ionar la Prim膬ria din New York 葯i a avut c卯teva experien葲e erotice adev膬rate (Kay Campbell = Dovlecel, Sarah Maulsby = Pelerinul, Mary Jane Reed = Maimu葲a).

Sigur, romanul e sfid膬tor 葯i excesiv. Dar a fost publicat 卯n epoca 鈥瀍liber膬rii sexuale鈥� (anii 60-70 ai secolului trecut) 葯i, prin problematica lui, a contribuit la 卯n葲elegerea faptului c膬, 卯n via葲a omului, erosul are un rol mult mai important dec卯t credeau puritanii 葯i morali葯tii de ambe sexe. Prin glasul lui Portnoy, se r膬zbun膬 secole 卯ntegi de reprimare sistematic膬 a sexului 葯i trupului.

Romanul lui Roth este, desigur, 葯i o b膬葯c膬lie la adresa psihanalizei 葯i a modei de a merge, ori de c卯te ori sim葲i o jen膬 卯n zona amigdalei cerebrale, la un specialist reputat. Dac膬 nu sesizezi ironia ascu葲it膬 a autorului, e u葯or s膬 interpretezi gre葯it cartea, s膬 confunzi fic葲iunea cu realitatea.

Dar ce caut膬 s膬rmanul Portnoy la psihanalist? Nici el nu 葯tie prea bine. Nu a avut o copil膬rie traumatizant膬 (exagereaz膬), a fost premiant, a constatat c膬 are un IQ de 158, c卯t al lui Einstein, a prins o slujb膬 onorabil膬. Faptul c膬 p膬rin葲ii (posesivi, fire葯te) l-au b膬tut la cap uneori nu e un motiv pentru a deveni un nevropat. Nimeni nu face o nevroz膬 numai fiindc膬 a fost chemat insistent la mas膬, de葯i se 卯ndopase cu pr膬jituri 卯n ora葯 葯i avea dureri de stomac.

P卯n膬 la urm膬, Complexul lui Portnoy consemneaz膬 c膬utarea zadarnic膬 a unui vinovat inexistent. Revolta lui Alex nu are o surs膬 precis膬. E visceral膬. M膬 卯ndoiesc c膬 doctorul Spielvogel va reu葯i s膬-l vindece...
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July 17, 2023
Some spend their young years learning and some spend their young years masturbating. Well, maybe it鈥檚 some sort of rehearsing as well.
鈥淒reams? If only they had been! But I don't need dreams, Doctor, that's why I hardly have them 鈥� because I have this life instead. With me it all happens in broad daylight!鈥�

Libido and psychoanalysis were invented to complement each other and to feed charlatans鈥� On both sides.
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Si queremos creer al autor, El mal de Portnoy (tambi茅n pudiera ser El lamento de Portnoy, ambas cosas es la novela y ambas acepciones tiene el Complaint ingl茅s) no ten铆a como objeto ning煤n tipo de catarsis jud铆o-parental sino una liberaci贸n de formas narrativas tradicionales. Puede ser, no est谩 bien contradecir a quien, desgraciadamente, ya no puede defenderse, pero creo que se lo tuvo que pasar estupendamente arremetiendo contra una cierta forma de sentir jud铆a, desconozco si alejada o no de la suya.
鈥減ersonas tan desagradables como yo: hombres asustados, a la defensiva, que desprecian su propio ser, desalentados y corrompidos por la vida en el mundo de los gentiles. Fueron los jud铆os de la Di谩spora, los jud铆os como yo, quienes se dejaron llevar por millones a las c谩maras de gas, sin levantar un dedo contra sus verdugos, sin ocurr铆rseles derramar su sangre para defender sus vidas. 隆La Di谩spora!鈥�
Estamos en los a帽os 60 y lo que entonces era considerado sucio o repugnante en cuesti贸n de sexo quiz谩s ya no lo sea tanto o ya no nos asombre de la misma manera, y aun as铆 la pol茅mica siempre perseguir谩 a este lujurioso Alexander Portnoy, abogado jud铆o, de gran inteligencia y 茅xito profesional, obsesionado con el sexo con chicas shikse, no jud铆as, que poseen el halo de depravaci贸n que les confiere ser el oscuro y prohibido objeto de deseo que se les atribuye en su comunidad y, por tanto, el camino m谩s corto para huir de su condici贸n jud铆a, adicto a la masturbaci贸n compulsiva y al sexo oral, al茅rgico al compromiso de fidelidad que casi siempre se impone en la pareja (鈥渢oda chica, por deliciosa y provocativa que haya podido parecerme, acabar谩 result谩ndome m谩s familiar que una rebanada de pan鈥� ), sentimentalmente esc茅ptico鈥�
鈥溌縌u茅 amor? 驴Es eso lo que une a todas esas parejas que conocemos, las que se toman la molestia de unirse? 驴No ser谩 m谩s bien la debilidad? 驴No ser谩n m谩s bien la comodidad y la apat铆a y la culpa? 驴No ser谩n m谩s bien el miedo y el agotamiento y la inercia, la pura y simple falta de reda帽os, much铆simo m谩s que ese "amor" con el que los consejeros matrimoniales y los compositores de canciones y los psicoterapeutas andan siempre so帽ando?鈥�
鈥� ap贸stata y cr铆tico con todo lo espec铆ficamente jud铆o (鈥淣i se me pasaba por la cabeza que se pudiera uno beber un vaso de leche con el sandwich de salami sin ofender a Dios Todopoderoso鈥� ), sin que ello signifique ning煤n tipo de sinton铆a con el cristianismo al que califica de estupidez supina, y patol贸gicamente propenso a culpar a su madre, una 鈥渕谩quina de generar preocupaciones鈥� , por endosarle para siempre su quisquillosa conciencia moral, y a su d茅bil y estre帽ido padre por haberle dejado en sus manos sin proporcionarle ning煤n modelo masculino que le sirviera de contrapeso a la castradora figura de su madre.
鈥溌縌u茅 ten铆an esos padres jud铆os, qu茅, para hacernos creer a los judiitos j贸venes, por un lado, que 茅ramos unos pr铆ncipes, 煤nicos en el mundo, como los unicornios, genios, m谩s brillantes que nadie nunca y m谩s guapos que ning煤n otro ni帽o de la historia?... Redentores, pura perfecci贸n, por un lado; y, por el otro, torpes, incompetentes, inconscientes, desamparados, ego铆stas, malvados comemierdas, peque帽os ingratos.鈥�
Y qu茅 mejor forma de sacar todo lo que llevaba dentro, ya que siendo jud铆o la confesi贸n quedaba totalmente descartada, que el desahogo sin censuras ni tapujos que favorece un psicoanalista. Aqu铆 tenemos, por tanto, a Alexander Portnoy tumbado en el div谩n, incapaz de manejar su vida, abrumado por el deseo vergonzante, con su conciencia como principal enemigo e invadido por la culpa en un mon贸logo delirante, sucio, perverso, provocativo y, mucho he tardado en decirlo, divertid铆simo.
鈥溾€� el detalle del suicidio de Ronald Nimkin que m谩s me llam贸 la atenci贸n fue la nota para su madre que encontraron prendida a su amplia camisa de fuerza, a esa bonita camisa deportiva tan rigurosamente almidonada. 驴Sabe lo que dec铆a? Adiv铆nelo. El 煤ltimo mensaje de Ronald a su mam谩. Adiv铆nelo: Ha llamado la se帽ora Blumenthal. Que no te olvides de llevar las reglas del mah-jong a la partida de esta noche en su casa.鈥�
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The case of an American Jew torn between the perfection imposed by parents and personal freedom touches the universal! Alexander (at least for me) is not the prototype of the living Jew in the United States, suffocated by a severely exemplary education. However, the parents choose the route to follow for their son. The latter, who finds this life bland and demanding, who throws herself into the most insatiable sexuality (from his childhood), is a universal being who exists everywhere in the world: he can be Christian, Jewish, or Muslim. But, etc., he doubts the belief and the importance of this compatibility and these morals; he no longer believes in the foundation of the family or marriage.
And so Alexander's monologue in front of his psychiatrist (the reader rather) continues with humor and g(Roth)esque - childhood stories (a "big masturbator") and sex stories (with the Monkey in particular). Alexander hesitates to choose between life according to his family's expectations or the free life that escapes him in the impossibility of making a choice! So he has no experience; he has an image, a pale copy of life. Also, he develops a very pessimistic vision of marriage, a tragicomic vision!
Alexander touches and captivates us with his vision of things. He does not deny his belongings or hate his parents but opposes specific uses or beliefs.
Roth could present the soul of an American Jew without clich茅s, with an excellent mastery of his character's character and humor (I would not say the Woody Allen) full of irony (original).
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December 26, 2021
This is the book that made Philip Roth both famous and scandalous. Portnoy is a mother-obsessed sexual maniac and actually quite hilarious. Who else would have had his character masturbating with a cow liver other than the author of the equally darkly humorous Sabbath's Theater? This book and the reaction to it drives the Nathan Zuckerman series of books which all refer back to the public reaction with equal measures of awe and dismay. The book itself is a classic and extremely well-written as only Roth can write.

If I were to compare Roth to another onanist-obsesses writer, I鈥檇 probably choose France鈥檚 Houllebecq who can barely string two paragraphs together before whipping it out. However, Roth is truly able to get inside his characters and make them real, living breathing beings. I found that Houllebecq鈥檚 characters lacked any depth or even human understanding. They are just masturbatory cogs in a wheel. The wheel itself is well-described, but it is all so nihilistic and fatalist which is one reason why he is a darling to the extreme right who deplore decadence and think that God or their conceptions of right/wrong should be imposed because given freewill, humans will always be depraved. Roth鈥檚 view is less cynical. There is evil in the world, but it comes from conscious choices, and not just from the world鈥檚 inherent immorality or some antiquated idea of fate.

RIP (1933-2018). One of America's literary giants has left us.
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September 8, 2022
MUSEO CONTEMPORANEO DELLE GEREMIADI E LAMENTAZIONI


Richard Benjamin 猫 Alex Portnoy in 鈥淧ortnoy鈥檚 Complaint鈥�, il film del 1972 diretto da Ernest Lehman.

Ma di che si lamenta questo Alex Portnoy, perch茅 la mena per duecento e passa pagine con questa geriamiade in odor di lamentazione?
Che poi il suo psych, il dottor Spielvogel, kasher anche lui 莽a va sans dire, quando avr脿 finito di sganasciarsi dalle risate per il suo racconto 鈥� perch茅 Philip/Alex fa davvero ridere 鈥� a proposito, ma 猫 lo stesso Philip Roth che ha scritto quella meraviglia intitolata Pastorale americana?! Qui, tutt鈥檃ltro tono, tutt鈥檃ltra musica 鈥� viene da credere che il suo terapeuta finir脿 per suicidarsi con un bel tuffo dalla finestra (come nella tradizione del miglior Woody Allen).


Karen Black 猫 la Scimmia. Il film usc矛 in Italia con il titolo 鈥淪e non faccio quello non mi diverto鈥� (no comment).

Alex cresce nella tipica famiglia ebrea cocco di mamma e cocco di pap脿 in quanto maschio e primogenito, con la sorella Hannah (maggiore di quattro anni) decisamente relegata in seconda posizione.
E allora: nessuna famiglia disfunzionale, nessuna anaffettivit脿, niente separazioni divorzi abbandoni, niente di tutta quella roba con la quale uno psicoterapeuta va a nozze. Caso mai, il contrario: eccesso d鈥檃more e troppa attenzione. Perch茅 si lamenta il trentatreenne Alex Portnoy? (Che caso mai sarebbe sua sorella a doversi lamentare).


La mamma e il pap脿 di Alex sono Lee Grant e Jack Somack (probabilmente l鈥檜nico attore americano a non avere foto su IMDb.

Non ho nessun valido motivo per piangere, ma in questa famiglia ognuno tenta di strappare un buon pianto almeno una volta al giorno.
Famiglia Melodramma pi霉 che famiglia Portnoy: pianti, urla, porte sbattute, maniglie divelte, minacce a mano armata (coltello seghettato del pane), sdegnose alzate da tavola, con tanto affetto e amore. Una perfetta parodia del Re Lear, come ammette lo stesso Alex, e quindi lo stesso Philip.
La madre racconta ad Alex tredicenne che avrebbe potuto sposare un altro pretendente, il re della senape a New York 鈥� con ci貌 sottintendo che per suo marito ha rinunciato a ben altro agio di vita 鈥� e Alex si chiede come sarebbero state diverse le cose con un altro padre: nel senso che il genitore avrebbe potuto essere diverso, ma l鈥檈sistenza di Alex non sarebbe mai stata in dubbio.


Portnoy si lamenta.

Qual 猫 il problema di Alex - a parte l鈥檕nanismo incallito, a parte cominciare a menarsi l鈥檃ffarino, come lo chiama sua mamma con gran corruccio del piccolo Alex, gi脿 quando 猫 ancora avvolto nella placenta? Vuole una donna, soprattutto se 鈥渟hiksa鈥� (non ebrea), vuole smettere di tremare di fronte ai torbidi godimenti, 猫 per questo che si lamenta? O 猫 l鈥檈ssere ebreo cresciuta in una famiglia ebrea? Oppure, si tratta della vergogna, sentimento pi霉 crudele di aprile, il pi霉 crudele dei mesi?
Forse invece si tratta di quella cappa familiare che sin da subito spinge e forza il piccolo Alex a essere carino, un bravo bambino, rispettoso e ubbidiente e perbene. Una cappa che asfissia un pochetto, che spinge a tenere le ali rinserrate, a volare basso, pochi grilli per la testa, la vita 猫 soprattutto 鈥渟acrificio e privazione鈥�, meglio non farsi illusioni, finestre chiuse, sguardo mai sfrontato, mai orgoglioso e se possibile rivolto verso il basso. Cappa in parte dovuta a mamma e pap脿 e in parte alla loro cultura ebraica.



Roth spinge il pedale, non si tira indietro, non risparmia giochi di parole, cerca, e trova, l鈥檈ffetto comico, anche ricorrendo alla scatologia come in quelle che si chiamano 鈥渂arzellette sporche鈥�.

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January 7, 2023
This started funny, but the joke went on way too long.
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July 27, 2019
'Enough being a nice Jewish boy. . . Let鈥檚 put the id back in yid鈥濃€擜lex Portnoy

Portnoy's Complaint: "A disorder in which strongly felt ethical and altruistic impulses are perpetually warring with extreme sexual longings, often of a perverse nature."

I have had a couple intense years of reading Roth, rereading some, but mostly reading much I had not read. Recently Roth died, RIP, and then I read his last four short books, and decided to come full circle back to my (I think it was) first and possibly the most read of his books, Portnoy鈥檚 Complaint, which reads almost as if it were a joyous comic farce. As with many other of his books, it begins with a male boy character, Alex, who struggles mightily with his Jewish Newark working class identity, and since he is a teenager, specifically with his parents. Roth, as with most of his other books, does not hide his character鈥檚 sexual life; instead he celebrates (and then analyzes, and sometimes problematizes) it in all its Rabelaisian glory.

Portnoy鈥檚 Complaint is sort of known as the Great American Novel of Teenaged Masturbation. In this book, Alex Portnoy is not at 14 having sex, but he calls himself 鈥渢he Raskolnikov of jerking off,鈥� and this is how the book comically opens, focusing on this. There is, later, a lot of sex in the book, usually related humorously鈥攁nd for the time, but probably still now, for many, shockingly鈥攅xplicit and what people used to call 鈥渇oul-mouthed,鈥� but it is clear his more serious subject is what it means to be Jewish in America; while making fun of himself he also satirizes his fellow Jews, sometimes brutally. The sex-obsessed Portnoy is in this tale confessing to his analyst; he is trying to figure out how to be Jewish (or not) in America, exploring these issues through the various women鈥擩ews, gentiles鈥攈e is with. The joy of sex, the joys and madness of Jewish life, and atheism, all three topics are persistent themes in Roth across most of his work, and are here from the very first.

It is 1969, and Portnoy鈥檚 Complaint emerges after 2-3 fairly tame books from Roth (in comparison, on the explicitness scale) that build his literary reputation, and then this famously 鈥渄irty book鈥� explodes (pun intended, sorry) on to the literary scene getting him denounced by Jewish leaders and community, becomeing an instant bestseller and critical smash. The world, or at least America, is going through a sexual revolution: Freedom, man, stop getting hung up on all this religious repression and just Let Go. Love the one you鈥檙e with! Alex was a top student, and is, at the time is telling the tale to his therapist, 33, a good liberal, working for Mayor John Lindsay, but is still lost, personally. He struggles, especially in his relationships with women: How can such a (once) good Jewish boy like him get so screwed up?! Maybe it's the endless screwing?

The book tacks back and forth between Alex the masturbator at 14 and Alex the sadly, madly lost sexual libertine at 33, a case of arrested development, one of many many Roth books that would seem to take a look at sex and mortality and cultural identity. To be sexual is for Roth (or is it just many of his main male characters?) to be fully alive鈥攚hile to have that denied is a form of living death. And yet it sometimes seems to be killing him, even as he obsesses about what it means to be Jewish, and an atheist, in America.

The book begins with a funny look at Alex鈥檚 upbringing by a set of neurotic Jewish parents鈥攄omineering mother Sophie, nebbish father鈥攚here the only thing he seems to have control over is his penis. Fast forward to age 33 where he is alone, childless, serial dating various goyish blond women. He seems to want to rid himself of his Jewish identity! But then, in Davenport, Iowa, he discovers his discomfort with Midwestern Christian America, too, as he visits his girlfriend鈥檚 family over the holidays. He doesn't want that life, either. Later in the book he pursues an Israeli Jew; will it be better in Israel, with a 鈥渞eal Jew鈥�? Nope! It鈥檚 like a dialectical narrative, going back in forth between being anguished over his cultural background, not wanting to be a traditional Jew, and not wanting to be mistreated as a Jew. But remember, this is鈥攍ike Salinger鈥檚 Catcher鈥攁 therapy session, so we are not supposed to see this solely as an affirmation of Alex. Alex is sex crazy, at 33, and all around pretty crazy.

Portnoy鈥檚 Complaint I thought was still very funny, in my second reading of it decades later, though it may have been knocked down a peg from my list of Roth鈥檚 absolute greats such as the American trilogy (though still I would say it is in the top seven or eight), but it is a manic, often hilarious, sometimes tiring series of rants (interspersed with comic Yiddishisms), a monologue, a confession from a seemingly arrogant, sometimes clearly self-deprecating, lost soul, creating one of the great literary characters of the twentieth century, still a source of shock and outrage and humor; still a 鈥渄irty book鈥� and very much a literary accomplishment.
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August 29, 2022

One can believe why the novel was shocking, scandalous even at time of release. It's both outrageous and amusing, and quite irreverent when it comes to the widely accepted values. I laughed a lot here, but to tell the truth I was slightly bored at times as well. I've never been to psychoanalytic yet, and I very much hope life would spare me that dubious pleasure in the future too, but the novel reads like you're furtively eavesdropping confessions of an anguished & neuritic, in Woody Allen style, patient to his doctor. Nothing funny to have to confess your personal life to strangers, you could say. It's true obviously, but the way Roth made his protagonist to do that is hilarious, well, mostly. It's a satire of course. On religion, sex, tradition, Jews, parents, upbringing, what that means to be Jew in modern society and how being Jew affects the whole life of our protagonist. Roth is scathing, hard-edged and doesn't give a damn about political correctness, mannerliness and all that jazz called Jewishness, but by Lord how many times one can read about masturbating Alex Portnoy, and not feel fatigued? Poor dick, cough, cough, poor Alex, I mean.
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January 27, 2012
Earlier today I grossly contradicted myself by stating that I'd enjoyed all the books I'd read which were written by Philip Roth. Then I realised I'd forgotten about Portnoy's Complaint.

There is a school of thought which says to write well you have to write about what you know. On that basis I know I definitely did not like this book, although that unfortunately does not guarantee that I will excel at writing about it. With that in mind Philip Roth is official King of writing about what you know and his throne is probably made from giant piles of books in which he has written about being himself or a variant thereof.

This book deals with several favorite Roth topics:
Being male (tick)
Being Jewish (tick)
Being an American Jewish Male (tick)
A mild obsession with the penis (tick)
Moderate biographical references throughout his works of fiction thus allowing us to see the author but never really get to know him (tick).

Not fitting into any of these categories, being neither male, Jewish, American or in possession of that vital bit of equipment (penis, not brain before anyone makes jokes) this book did not win me over. A monologue of sexual repression poured forth by the eponymous Alexander Portnoy, a young man who is so tied to the apron strings of his mother that he's only managed to liberate his right hand and his libido. Given the subject matter I think that it would be better dubbed a "manologue" rather than a monologue.

The highlight of the book for many (and this forms a lynch pin of many non 欧宝娱乐 reviews and critiques) is Alexander Portnoy's sexual adventures with a piece of raw liver. Man meat meets cold meat in a way which might give you disturbing nightmares about visiting the deli. The misused liver is then served up to the family as part of a delicious traditional Jewish recipe later that same day. Gehakte leber anyone? And don't even ask what the special ingredient in the schmaltz and gribenes is!
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September 28, 2020


Alex Portnoy is in therapy. And boy, does he need it!! But rarely has therapy been this funny 鈥� at least from the outsider鈥檚 perspective.

Why this book was controversial when it was published in the 60s is obvious: it鈥檚 brutally honest and confessional about things that were (and sometimes still are) best not discussed in polite company (bowel movements and masturbation are just the tip of the iceberg here 鈥� I don鈥檛 think there鈥檚 a single PC page in this novel). And Roth had the talent to make these topics hilarious 鈥� which I鈥檓 sure must have confused and freaked out a few prim and proper readers 40-odd years ago. None of this is really shocking now, but I kept trying to imagine my grandfather鈥檚 face if he had read this, and I鈥檓 pretty sure he would have blushed, coughed and then discreetly buried the conspicuous yellow book under his tomato plants (I think overbearing Jewish mothers sound a lot like overbearing Italian mothers, so I think it would have hit close to home, too).

But reading it in 2020, I can鈥檛 help but feel like Roth was ahead of his time in many ways. There is a fearlessness in Roth鈥檚 prose in this book, which one might attribute to the fact that this was his debut novel, but even when he wrote things I strongly disagree with (oh, the 60s casual sexism and homophobia鈥�), I couldn鈥檛 help but admire the panache. I feel that panache, like the effective use of symbolism, is something that鈥檚 not so easily found in more contemporary literature, and that makes me sad, because it鈥檚 a quality that breathes life into a story in a very palpable way.

Portnoy is trying to figure out who he is, how his family background and cultural patrimony fit in America. Cultural identity is such an amazingly complex and layered thing, and this long monologue Alex delivers to his therapist is a sometimes horrifying and endearing but always fascinating glimpse into the mind of an all too human mess of a man. Anyone who had to deal with an over-bearing parent will cringe with the familiarity of the Portnoy family dynamics.

I didn't like it as much as "American Pastoral" (/review/show...) and "The Human Stain" (/review/show...)- it's clearly not as sophisticated, but it shows Roth cutting his teeth rather brilliantly. Even if you don't like Alex much, getting to know him so intimately was an unforgettable adventure.
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February 10, 2017
The title is apt for this book, because the entire thing is a complaint, made by Alexander Portnoy to his shrink. Oh, boy.

Initially I put this on my TBR list because Joe Goldberg, the well-read psychopath in Caroline Kepnes' and lists it as his favourite book. A bit of a twisted road to get to Philip Roth's infamous, sexually explicit work that caused a big splash when published in 1969.

While cleverly written and quite funny in some parts, the rant-like nature of this book got a little tired after a while, and soon it was apparent that the story arc wasn't going anywhere interesting for me.

Portnoy complains mainly about his overbearing Jewish parents (particularly his mother - can you say Oedipus Complex?), his Jewishness, his attraction to shikses, and his inability to pick a nice girl and have a normal relationship. And round and round we go. There are some pretty over the top scenes which depict him wildly masturbating (to successful fruition) while his mother screams from the other side of the door.

This was my introduction to Philip Roth. Yup. And, I'm still willing and interested in reading more. Now, what does that say about me, Doctor?
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September 30, 2009
I have a vague memory that when I first read "Portnoy's Complaint" as a teenager -- I was probably 16 or 17 at the time -- I either carried my paperback copy with me to my grandmother's condo, or perhaps just mentioned to her that I was reading the book. What a mistake. She was displeased with my choice in reading material, and wasn't shy about letting me know. This was many years before Philip Roth won the Pulitzer Prize, making him somewhat more respectable to the American Jewish community. To be frank, though, even if he had already won the Pulitzer at that time, Grammy likely still would have seen "Portnoy's Complaint," and probably anything else by Roth, as a shanda fur die goyim and best avoided by her grandson. As an already somewhat lapsed Jew at the time, though, I found the novel hilarious, shocking and frighteningly accurate, if a bit exaggerated.

At more than double the age I was then, I decided to revisit "Portnoy's Complaint" for the first time, partly because I want to see if it's held up for me after all these years, and partly to see how it compares to the handful of other Roth novels I've read in recent years, including "The Anatomy Lesson" and "The Plot Against America." So what did I find? As an older and now completely lapsed Jew, I found "Portnoy's Complaint" hilarious, shocking and frighteningly accurate, if a bit exaggerated. It also stands heads and shoulders above the other Roth novels I've read. As far as I can tell, there's "Portnoy's Complaint," and then there's everything else he's written.

I won't bother saying much about the book's content here because either you've already read it don't need to be told about it, or you should read the book, and I don't want to ruin it for you by recounting the best parts. (Frankly, the whole book's great, and singling out the best parts would be a pretty daunting task.) But I do have one caveat: I'm not sure how well this book would resonate with anyone who didn't grow up as a male in a Jewish family in America. I'm not saying other people shouldn't read this book -- they should -- but I am saying that much of both its comedy and its meaningfulness likely will be lost on all readers who aren't male American Jews. As just one small example, only such a reader could truly appreciate the brilliance of a suicide note, from a son to his mother, mentioned in passing:
Mrs. Blumenthal called. Please bring your mah-jongg rules to the game tonight. Ronald

"Portnoy's Complain" is chock-full of profanity (including judicious use of the dreaded c-word), sexual depravity (and not just the famous meat scene), and ethnic stereotypes (including a hilarious depiction of the home life of WASPs). I've seen some people criticize this book for being too much of a comedy, too prone to Borscht Belt-style humor. Well, yes, but so what? The book is intended as a comedy, and the entire novel even ends with a punchline -- and not just any punchline, but a punchline that wouldn't be out of place on a Catskills stage.

Anyhow, there's no need for me to say much more about "Portnoy's Complaint." Plus, I have an easier time writing lengthy reviews of books I hate than ones I love wholeheartedly. Much like Alexander Portnoy, I'm not very good at being positive and upbeat. I'm just glad that the book held up as well as it did for me after all these years.

Sorry, Grammy.
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May 28, 2018
Her zamanki gibi a臒谋r spoiler i莽erir.

" Kadir-i mutlak tanr谋 hazretlerini ciddi bi莽imde rencide etmeden bir bardak s眉t眉n yan谋nda bir salaml谋 sandvi莽 yemeyi bile d眉艧眉nemezdim. Bir de 枚yle otuzbiri 莽ekip 莽ekip f谋艧k谋rtmakla vicdan谋ma nas谋l bir y眉k bindirdi臒imi d眉艧眉n眉n hele ! 鈥�

Portnoy鈥檜n Feryad谋 edebiyat tarihinin en a臒z谋 bozuk, terbiyesiz ve provakatif eserlerinden biri ki T眉rkiye鈥檇e hakl谋 bir 艧ekilde yarg谋lan谋p haks谋z bir 艧ekilde beraat etmesi bunun g枚stergelerinden biri. Merak etmeyin a臒z谋n谋n bozuklu臒u 眉莽眉nc眉 s谋n谋f yeralt谋 edebiyat谋 argosundan kaynakl谋 de臒il ve hakl谋 bir 艧ekilde yarg谋lanmas谋 derken ironi yapm谋yorum bu eser 1968鈥檌n Amerika鈥檚谋nda yaz谋lm谋艧 olmas谋na ra臒men 50 y谋l sonra bile biz hala bunlar谋 ne konu艧acak ne de yazacak d眉zeye gelmi艧 de臒iliz. Nihayetinde T眉rkiye鈥檇e cinsellik mevzusu taciz tecav眉z zina bermuda 艧eytan 眉莽geninde ya艧anan, ay谋p yorgan alt谋nda olur ile deyimle艧en bir halet i ruhiyede icra edilmeye devam ediyor ve bu kitab谋n edepsizli臒i ve a莽谋kl谋臒谋 maalesef bize fazla. Neyse Portnoy鈥檒e birlikte hepimizin ortak feryad谋na biraz yak谋ndan bakmaya 莽al谋艧al谋m ve evvala psikanalistin divan谋ndan figan谋n谋 hayk谋ran karakterimizin idi ve onu bask谋layan toplumsal yap谋ya yak谋ndan bakal谋m.

Kitap ilk gen莽li臒i ve olgunlu臒unu 45- 68 y谋llar谋 aras谋nda Newark鈥檇a Yahudi geleneklerinin bask谋n oldu臒u bir ortamda ge莽iren 30鈥檒u ya艧lar谋n ba艧谋nda ba艧ar谋l谋,toplumda sayg谋n bir yere gelmi艧, arzular谋, d眉rt眉leri ve onu bask谋layan yap谋lar谋n do臒urdu臒u utan莽 duygusu ile ba艧 edemeyen Portnoy鈥檜n psikanalistin divan谋ndan y眉kselen feryad谋n谋n monolog y枚ntemi ile aktar谋lmas谋 ile olu艧uyor. Bu bi莽im yazar谋n anlatmak istedi臒i meseleye cuk diye oturdu臒unu s枚yleyebilirim. Biz kitap boyunca psikanalisti g枚rmeyiz ve monolog sorularla b枚l眉nmez bu ise karakterin dolup ta艧m谋艧l谋臒谋n谋 vurgulamak i莽in i艧levsel oluyor eserde.
Portnoy鈥檜n Amerika鈥檚谋 莽ekirdek ailenin banliy枚yede icat oldu臒u, ilerlemenin, geli艧menin ve toplumsal 枚devlerin bireyi belirledi臒i bir d眉nyay谋 ve bir de buna Yahudi inanc谋n谋n 艧ekillendirdi臒i bir y谋臒谋n kural ve kaide eklenince kar艧谋m谋za idi ve s眉peregosu, istekler ve kurallar 莽at谋艧mas谋 ile b枚l眉nm眉艧 枚znenin bunal谋mlar谋n谋 莽谋kar谋yor. 鈥� Her yerde haz谋r ve naz谋r鈥� bir anne, do臒ru d眉zg眉n s谋莽amayan sigortac谋 bir baba ve s眉tyeni ie fantezilere dal谋nan bir abla. Kitab谋n temel derdi bast谋r谋lm谋艧 bir cinsellik olsa da yazar ayn谋 zamanda Mc Carthy Amerika鈥檚谋n谋n yasakl谋 konular谋na da de臒inmeden ge莽miyor. Portnoy鈥檜n Kom眉nist eni艧tesi, okulda s枚ylenen Enternasyoneler ve ileride karakterimizin y眉r眉tt眉臒眉 insan haklar谋 ve ayr谋mc谋l谋k kar艧谋t谋 莽al谋艧malar谋 bize Portnoy鈥檜n d枚neme ve zaman谋n ruhuna uymayan karakterinin di臒er y枚nlerini de 莽iziyor.

鈥� Kolumu sallasam ay谋plancak bir ay谋ba 莽arp谋yor. 鈥� Kitap Lineer bir hat izlememekle birlikte bize hikayeyi en ba艧tan anlatmaya ba艧l谋yor. 脟ocukluk an谋lar谋nda kar艧谋m谋za 鈥� Tan谋d谋臒谋 en unutulmaz 艧ahsiyet鈥� her 艧eyi bilen her yerde haz谋r dominant bir anne karakteri 莽谋k谋yor. 脰rneklerine s谋k莽a rastlad谋臒谋m谋z o臒lu艧una prens muamelesi 莽eken bir anne. Baban谋n etkisiz eleman oldu臒u evde her 艧ey anneden soruluyor,o臒ul annenin yasa臒谋 ile 艧ekilleniyor. Bu 莽ocukluk an谋lar谋ndan elimizde b谋莽a臒谋 ile o臒lunu tehdit eden ( 鈥� bunun bir 艧aka oldu臒unu d眉艧眉nmemi mi bekliyordu) anne ve bir testisini uzun bir s眉re kaybetmesi kal谋yor ve bu bize kastrasyona g枚t眉r眉yor, had谋m edilmemi艧 ama onun korkusunu hisseden bir 莽ocuk ve ergenli臒e ad谋m at谋nca o cehennemi ortamdan 莽谋k谋艧谋 莽avu艧u tokatlamada buluyor hem de durmaks谋z谋n. Ancak bu cici, neredeyse Einstein 莽ocu臒umuz bir ay谋p ve felaket korkusu olmadan bu i艧i de beceremiyor, masturbasyona ba艧lad谋臒谋na kanser olaca臒谋n谋, kar艧谋 cinsle ( Yahudi olmayan bir 艧ikse) ilk yak谋nla艧t谋臒谋nda 枚m眉r boyu sakat kalaca臒谋n谋( kay kay b枚l眉m眉) ve ilk cinsel deneyiminde ( evet yine b眉y眉k bir g眉nah, k谋z Yahudi de臒il) k枚r kalaca臒谋na inan谋yor, bizde de masturbasyon boy k谋sal谋臒谋 muhabetti benzeri. Bu cinsel deneyim ve ard谋ndan gelen felaket beklentisi kitap boyunca s眉r眉yor, 陌FK ba艧kan谋n ba艧s谋z cesedi, telek谋z谋n evinde bulundu, Cemiyetin yeni g枚zdesi, yahudininkini diplerken bo臒uldu ve daha ne gazete ba艧l谋klar谋.. 鈥淎ZAT EDEL陌M Y陌D鈥櫮�, GER陌 VEREL陌M ONA 陌D鈥櫮扳€�.

D枚rt bir yan谋 tabularla 莽evrilmi艧, yasak g眉nah ay谋p ile s谋n谋r谋 莽izilmi艧 hayat谋nda ilk yasa臒谋 莽i臒nemek karakterimizin id ile s眉perego aras谋ndaki gel gitli ili艧kiyi bir 眉st boyuta 莽谋kart谋r, bu b枚l眉m眉n 枚ncesinde 鈥淵ahudi Yahudi Yahudi ! Kusaca臒谋m art谋k ac谋 ceken Yahudilerin destan谋ndan. Hadi bana bir iyilik edin, can谋mdan aziz halk谋m ve ac谋larla dolu miras谋n谋z谋 ac谋larla dolu g枚t眉n眉ze sokun 鈥� diyerek 枚zg眉rle艧me prati臒inin k枚kenlerine dair ipu莽lar谋da vermektedir. Bireyin arzusu ile bar谋艧mas谋, oldu臒u her neyse ona sahip 莽谋kmas谋 眉st anlat谋y谋 bo艧a d眉艧眉rmekle m眉mk眉nd眉r( bu kitab谋n yasaklanmas谋 i莽in bir neden daha) ancak bu atarlanmakla olacak i艧 de臒il maalesef ki Portnoy bu kimli臒e ve bask谋lanmas谋na tekrar tekrar d枚necektir.Kitap boyunca dikkat 莽eken bir hususda 枚teki olmak. Portnoy i莽in en ba艧tan yasaklanm谋艧 anglo sakson d眉nyas谋 bir vahay谋 temsil etmekte o beyazlar d眉nyas谋ndan kald谋raca臒谋 beyaz kad谋nlar i莽in o lanet Yahudi burnu olmasa neler yapacakt谋r kim bilir. 脰zelikle kaykay b枚l眉m眉nde beyaz k谋zlara yakla艧mak i莽in kurdu臒u hayaller bana Fanon鈥檜n Siyah Deri Beyaz Maskeler kitab谋n谋 hat谋rlatt谋. Arada bu kitab谋 da 枚nermi艧 olay谋m.

Kitab谋n 枚nemli karakterlerinden biri de Maymun lakapl谋 manken k谋z谋m谋z. Portnoy arzulad谋臒谋 b眉t眉n fantezilere maymun ile ula艧谋rken bile 鈥� eksik bir 艧ey鈥� kal谋r geride. Daha en ba艧tan arzusu sakatlanan ve bunu makulle艧tirmek i莽in bahaneler arayan karakter saf arzusu ile y眉zle艧ince gerisin geri s眉peregosuna s谋臒谋n谋r ve bunun i莽in elinde g眉莽l眉 doneler var, k谋z saf cehalet mirim, New York Belediyesinin parlayan y谋ld谋z谋 bu cehaletle tatmin olacak diye kendini daha ne kadar k眉莽眉ltebilir. Ki艧inin arzusundan ka莽mak i莽in s谋臒谋naca臒谋 binbir bahane vard谋r ve halk aras谋nda buna yemedi denir. Neyse a臒z谋m谋 bozmadan devam edeyim ve sonlara geleyim.

Maymun鈥檜n maymun etti臒i sevgili Portnoy鈥檜muz solu臒u vaat edilmi艧 topraklarda al谋r ancak b枚l眉m眉n ba艧l谋臒谋 s眉rg眉nd眉r. O Yahudi 莽ocuk en sonunda 枚teki olmad谋臒谋, herkesin ona benzedi臒i karde艧 topraklardad谋r ancak vaat edilmi艧 topraklarda da i艧ler yolunda gitmez. O azg谋n teke 陌srail s谋n谋rlar谋 i莽inde kald谋ramaz, bundan iyi sembolizm mi olur ! . 脟眉nk眉 ensest b眉y眉k bir g眉naht谋r ve kimse annesinin kutsal topra臒谋nda kald谋ramaz. Maymun ile sabahlara kadar 眉莽l眉 yapar ama 陌srail鈥檇e en fazla hay谋rl谋 bir k谋smet buluruz.

Asl谋nda d眉n kitap kul眉b眉nde tart谋艧谋rken d枚rt y谋ld谋z veririm diye d眉艧眉n眉yordum hatta yaz谋n谋n ba艧谋na ge莽erken de ayn谋 fikirdeydim ama san谋r谋m konu艧tuk莽a kendimi gaza getirdim ve edebi yetkinli臒i bir yana bu a莽谋k s枚zl眉l眉臒e be艧 y谋ld谋z vermeden edemedim.

Son olarak; bu kitab谋 okumak isteyen ya da okuyup Portnoy鈥檃 k谋zan k枚p眉ren ya da halden anlayan okur, Horatius鈥檜n Antik yunan鈥檇a Marx鈥櫮眓 Kapital鈥檌n Almanca bask谋s谋n谋n 枚ns枚z眉nde dedi臒i gibi De Tabula Fabura Narratur..
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149 reviews109 followers
May 20, 2018
Portnoy'un Feryad谋, d枚nemsel olarak bak谋ld谋臒谋nda neden 莽ok fazla rahats谋z edici olabilece臒i 莽ok net bir 艧ekilde anla艧abiliyor. Cinsel devrim 枚ncesi, bireysel cinsel varolu艧un hem alg谋lamas谋 , hem dinsel 枚臒eler, hem de Freudyen bak谋艧谋 yap谋land谋rma a莽谋s谋ndan bence 枚zel bir kitap. Bu perspektiften bak谋ld谋臒谋nda 4 y谋ld谋z. Hatta, Oedipus g枚nderimleri, Portnoy gibi karakter yarat谋m谋 ve anlat谋m谋 bak谋m谋ndan 5 y谋ld谋z bile olabilirdi, e臒er 1960'larda ABD'de ya艧asayd谋m.

艦u an i莽in de臒erlendirdi臒imde, Roth'un abs眉rtl眉k alg谋s谋 fazla a艧谋r谋 geldi. Ve 莽izdi臒i yan karakterler, yorucuydu.Kitab谋 okurken, 枚zellikle ba艧 b枚l眉mlerde Woody Allen'in filmi izliyormu艧 gibi keyifle okudum ve sonras谋nda art谋k bayacak bir durumda neredeyse American Pie izliyormu艧 hissi verdi.

厂辞苍耻莽:

Genel anlamda, Portnoy'un Feryad谋, benim hi莽 sevmedi臒im 莽ok fazla Amerikan ve c谋v谋k c谋v谋k bir anlat谋ma sahip. Her ne kadar Portnoy d枚nemsel olarak 枚nemli bir kitap olsa da, Roth'un y眉klemeler yapt谋臒谋 t眉m alt metinlere ra臒men, Roth'un laubali anlat谋m谋 yorucu ve s谋k谋c谋 bir hale gelmeye ba艧lad谋.Ve sonu莽 olarak da, Roth'u ve kitab谋 hi莽 sevmedim.

Amerikan edebiyat谋na merakl谋ysan谋z, okunmas谋 gereken bir kitap. Portnoy'u ke艧ke Roth de臒il de ba艧ka bir yazar daha farkl谋 anlatsayd谋.

陌yi okumalar.

10/7
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160 reviews178 followers
March 8, 2021
Seghe, seghe, seghe.
In questo libro ci sono un sacco di seghe. Ve lo ricordate il voyeurismo in combinazione con le seghe di questo libro?
Ecco, dimenticatelo.

鈥�Ma Pietro, in questo libro ci sono le stesse cose, come mai qui va bene e li no?鈥�
Ormai siamo in confidenza, potete chiamarmi Pie dai.
鈥�Ma Pie, in questo libro ci son-鈥�

Il libro e鈥� un lungo monologo di Alex Portnoy in visita dal suo psicologico. La sua vita e鈥� sempre stata legata da una madre troppo apprensiva e un padre troppo malato immaginario che non riesce a cacare. E per qualche motivo che penso possa ricordare l鈥檃dolescenza di tutti noi maschietti, il nostro Alex inizia a partire con le seghe. Ma ragazzi, un sacco di seghe.
Il problema e鈥� che Alex si vorrebbe fare...che faccio ve lo dico? Ve lo dico dai, tanto si intuisce fin da subito...Alex si vorrebbe fare indirettamente sua madre.

E in questo libro nonostante l'assurdit脿 delle situazioni in cui si caccia il nostro Alex la cosa funziona. Perch茅?
Perch茅 il protagonista sa molto bene di essere malato e lo accetta raccontandolo con aperta sincerit脿 senza darsi arie borghesi che sa di non avere.

Philip Roth dimostra di essere uno scrittore come si deve. Prende delle situazioni grottesche e super cringe che causano tensione nel lettore, e spezza le tensione con l鈥檌ronia esagerata che accompagna tutto il suo monologo. Lolita, ad esempio, segue uno schema simile.
Well done, Philip.

Unica nota stonata - per Pietrino pi霉 che per la coerenza della storia - 猫 lo stile di questi capitoli lunghissimi in cui Alex martella il lettore con un enorme flusso di coscienza ininterrotto, che alla lunga mi ha leggermente infastidito. Ma comunque 猫 senza dubbio un libro consigliatissimo.

Anche perch茅 per come la vedo io il Lamento di Portnoy stringe un forte occhioliono e penso sia a tutti gli effetti la versione 2.0 di un altro pilastro della lettura contemporanea del 900 che affronta tematiche simili. Forse meno elegante e con il pedale dell'acceleratore sempre premuto a fondo, ma ho notato una forte somiglianza con...

State pensando allo stesso libro a cui sto pensando io?

Scrivetemelo in un commento qui sotto, che tanto stiamo pensando alla stessa cosa.

Peace Off
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106 reviews235 followers
December 1, 2022


Sono un gran ammiratore dei film di Woody Allen, principalmente quelli dei suoi inizi (anni '70 e '80) dove 猫 pi霉 evidente il suo carattere nevrotico (ebreo nevrotico) della sua opera.
Ecco che ho trovato in Philip Roth il suo pari nel mondo della parola scritta, come Woody Allen, Roth non si risparmia in dettagli nel rivelare l'assurdit脿 di molti pregiudizi afferrati in difesa della purezza o delle tradizioni.

Il libro 猫 una narrazione in prima persona, una vasta sessione/confessione di psicoanalisi (ancora Woody Allen) che non rinuncia mai ad un certo tono sarcastico e allo stesso tempo un po' disperato.
Penso che sia importante collocare la pubblicazione del romanzo nel suo contesto temporale: 1969, in coincidenza con la controcultura nei costumi in tutto il mondo, anche negli Stati Uniti.
Recentemente ho visto una serie TV americana chiamata "La fantastica signora Maisel" che mentre leggevo il libro mi tornava in mente per alcuni punti di contatto, l'ambientazione (New York anni 50), i personaggi (ebrei tradizionalisti portati al ridicolo), l'umore (acido ed esilarante) e altri particolari. Sicuramente i creatori di questa serie sono grandi fan di Philip Roth.

Per貌 sono due prodotti molto diversi, mentre la signora Maisel 猫 pro, accompagna l'assurdo da dentro ed 猫 convinta di essere una ebrea tradizionalista (anche se si prende in giro), il signor Portnoy 猫 contro, si tira fuori dal cerchio e critica, vuole smetterla con l'essere ebreo ma si lamenta, come bravo ebreo.

Per chi ha letto il romanzo, cos矛 mi sono immaginato la lettera della "scimmia" al sindaco di New York:

"Dir Sindaco,
Deve sapere che il signor Portnoy 猫 innamorato del suo pene. Di nessuno altro che del suo uccello."
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277 reviews40 followers
March 31, 2024
Nu v茫 l茫sa葲i p茫c茫li葲i de verva 峁 de umorul celor aproximativ 250 pagini! Sau de capitole ca "Laba" sau "Mort dup茫 pi-d茫"! Dep茫艧iti ru艧ini sau false prejudec茫牛i 峁 l茫sa葲i-v茫 mintea liber茫 ca s茫 卯n葲elege葲i Complexul lui Portnoy. Cu pu葲in noroc ve葲i descoperi Poanta.
"Dar, cel pu葲in, at芒t c芒t am tr茫it, am tr茫it a-nt芒ia!" - pag.251. Ceea ce e nemaipomenit.
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Author听15 books288 followers
January 26, 2021
Credo possa definirsi la storia di una lotta. Non contro un nemico immaginario, ma contro il tentativo da parte dell'educazione famigliare ricevuta (imposta), della repressione dei valori borghesi e del sottile velo di ipocrisia ovunque imperante di plasmare la mente del povero protagonista secondo un modello che non sente affatto suo. L'erotomania imperante diviene, allora, il tentativo quasi inconscio d'infrangere uno dei principali tab霉: il tentativo di riaffermar la propria libera individualit脿 a fronte di un mondo che vorrebbe recludere ogni individuo oltre le false mura della massificazione.
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830 reviews148 followers
May 18, 2024
4 stars

short review for busy readers: very funny, very explicit sex comedy narrated by a neurotic Jewish civil rights activist with mother issues. Just for the characteristic Yiddish speech and humour it's worth reading. About 50 pages too long (repetitive). A slower read to get all the jokes. By rights a classic. Not for the easily offended!

in detail:
Alexander Portnoy has three problems. One: his mother. Two: his sex drive. Three: Being a Jew in a Gentile world.

This triumvirate of evil plagues Portnoy so much that he feels the need to get it all off his chest through a long-winded rant in his therapist鈥檚 office. This rant is at once utterly random, and yet always pointing to Portnoy鈥檚 real underlying problem: he鈥檚 a perpetual outsider constantly banging on the door to be let inside. (And I do mean 鈥榖anging鈥�! 馃き)

The star of this novel is not Portnoy鈥檚 penis, as much as he thinks it is. Nor even the idea that some Jews feel they don鈥檛 really belong to American society and ghettoize themselves willfully.

No, the real star is the language.

Roth conveys whole arguments in a single paragraph without using any quotation marks, and you still know exactly who is speaking. The rhythm of the sentences, the thought trains, the asides, are so typical of Yiddish influenced English, that you automatically hear a stereotypical NY Jewish voice in your head.

The name calling, the descriptions, the sex stories are related with linguistic nods to songs, advertising jingles that were popular in the late 60s and 鈥榮ympathetic sounds鈥� such as when Portnoy calls himself 鈥淧ortnoy, oy, oy, oy鈥� echoing the Yiddish exclamation for dismay: 鈥渙y鈥�.

It鈥檚 a dazzling piece of artistic craftsmanship and truly funny. But despite that, it runs on in the same vein for somewhat too long. About 50 pages could be trimmed without any damage to the novel. That's my only real critique. After about page 200, nothing new is added, but Portnoy blusters on.

If you are in the mood for a good laugh and candid (hetero) sexual comments, scenes, etc don鈥檛 bother you, this is one to add to your TBR list!
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137 reviews146 followers
July 18, 2018
Il mare impetuoso al tramonto鈥�(*)

Esilarante, caustico, irriverente. Che altro dire?
Che ogni volta che leggo questo autore rimango incantata dalla vividezza, dalla potenza con cui le persone (nemmeno i personaggi) saltano fuori dalle pagine, e si muovono e parlano e agiscono, veri, nitidi, naturali. E la scrittura accattivante, scoppiettante, che non perde un colpo.
E non ho potuto non provare partecipazione e tenerezza per Alex Portnoy, per le sue ossessioni e i suoi sensi di colpa. Il senso di colpa! Questo romanzo 猫 un vero e proprio trattato esaustivo su questo sentimento pernicioso, persistente, onnipresente nella vita di molti...
Mi 猫 rimasto un dubbio: o anche i miei genitori sono ebrei e me l鈥檋anno sempre abilmente tenuto nascosto, o la cultura del senso di colpa non 猫 solo prerogativa di questa religione...

鈥淨uando Heshie rest貌 ucciso in guerra, l鈥檜nica cosa che alla gente venne in mente di dire a mia zia Clara e a mio zio Hymie, per lenirne l鈥檕rrore e consolarne il dolore fu: - Se non altro non vi ha lasciati con una moglie shikse. Se non altro non vi ha lasciati con dei bambini goysche.
Fine di Heshie e della sua storia.鈥�

(*) magari non c'entra niente ma questa 猫 la stata la mia colonna sonora
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76 reviews
January 15, 2022
Alexander Portnoy, oturuyor terapistinin koltu臒una ve anlatmaya ba艧l谋yor ama ne anlatma. Akla gelmesi bile mide buland谋r谋c谋 艧eyleri, en a臒谋za gelmeyecek 艧ekilde anlat谋yor. Ailenin, akraban谋n, dini kimli臒in yeri geldi臒inde ne kadar yaralay谋c谋, ne kadar bask谋c谋 ve i莽inden 莽谋k谋lmaz olabilece臒ini, hayat谋 nas谋l cehenneme 莽evirebilece臒ini g枚steriyor.

Bir de ekleme yapay谋m, 2000 y谋l谋nda kitab谋n yasaklanmas谋 i莽in a莽谋lan davada yarg谋lamaya konu iddia 艧u 艧ekilde idi; "Halk谋n ar ve haya duygular谋n谋 rencide etti臒i, ailedeki terbiye ve disiplin anlay谋艧谋n谋n yozla艧t谋r谋larak gen莽ler 眉zerinde aile otoritesinin azalt谋lmas谋n谋n, asi 莽ocuk 枚rneklerinin 莽o臒alt谋lmas谋n谋n ama莽land谋臒谋"
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946 reviews987 followers
February 7, 2022
68th book of 2021.

I've had some trouble with Roth in that every time I see one of his books in a charity shop or a sale, I buy them, and over the years I've accumulated perhaps 5 or 6 Roth novels, and yet haven't (until now) read a single one. I would take one off the shelf and think, I haven't got this one, I must read some Roth, I must read this. So I kept buying them and never managed to read them. According to Penguin, Portnoy's Complaint is the best novel to start with. It isn't his first novel, but it is the novel that sent him into literary stardom. The novel is framed as a nearly 300 page monologue from Portnoy to his psychoanalyst, Dr. Spielvogel.

I was expecting sex. I was not quite expecting the level and humour of the sex. This long section is from page 18. Alexander Portnoy begins by describing his masturbation addiction.
On an outing of our family association, I once cored an apple, saw to my astonishment (and with the aid of my obsession) what it looked like, and ran off into the woods to fall upon the orifice of the fruit, pretending that the cool and mealy hole was actually between the legs of that mythical being who always called me Big Boy when she pleaded for what no girl in all recorded history had ever had. "Oh shove it in me, Big Boy," cried the cored apple that I banged silly on that picnic.
Or just slightly later, the description of Portnoy violating a piece of liver bought en route to his bar mitzvah lesson. It's vulgar but it's humorous and Portnoy has a strong narrative voice. The beginning is entirely around his overprotective and overbearing Jewish parents and his obsession with sex, imagining sex, masturbation. There are scenes where he is locked in the bathroom attempting to masturbate when his parents are trying to barge in and ask him what's wrong. He creatively describes all manners of his obsession: at one point he puts on strap of his sister's bra on the doorknob and the other on the knob of a bathroom cabinet and there the bra hangs and wobbles in front of him, as if attached to a woman.

Once Roth has had his play at talking about sex and shocking the reader (it's hardly shocking for us now, but I imagine it was in '69), Portnoy digs deeper into his family life, his being raised a Jew, etc. And there's a great amount of bitterness about the latter. Eventually the novel comes back around to the sex as Portnoy explains some of the long relationships he had in his adult life, none of them very "normal". I said recently in my review of Batlava Lake, which is also a monologue, that novels such as these need to have a moment that breaks through all the comic value/sex/humour and strike something deeper to find, for lack of a better word, the point of it all. (I'm not suggesting all novels have a giant overt "point", but I think there has to be something shining through a giant comical monologue like this.) In Portnoy's Complaint, we get the glimpse (1) what Portnoy maybe really wants,
Dignity! Health! Love! Industry! Intelligence! Trust! Decency! High Spirits! Compassion!

and (2) we get a female character berating him near the end of the novel for all she believes Portnoy is. It struck me quite well in the end: problems with girls and masturbation become problems in general! In life! In America! With the modern man! With money! With ambition! Etc.!

Roth loves an exclamation mark and this novel is full of them. I remember a professor telling me at university that using more than 1 on a page was sloppy writing. Roth uses hundreds. I didn't count but I wonder how many are truly used in this 274 page novel. Somehow, it works: Portnoy's lamenting is the entire point of the novel and without them, it would be worse off. A brilliant and vulgar and bizarre novel. Glad I finally read Roth. I still own about 4 others though.
What I'm saying, Doctor, is that I don't seem to stick my dick up these girls, as much as I stick it up their backgrounds鈥攁s though through fucking I will discover America. Conquer America鈥攎aybe that's more like it.
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"螠伪 蔚委谓伪喂 蠂蟻喂蟽蟿喂伪谓喂蟽渭蠈蟼 伪蠀蟿蠈 蟺慰蠀 渭蠀蟻委味蠅, 萎 伪蟺位蠋蟼 慰 蟽魏蠉位慰蟼;"

3,5 伪蟽蟿蔚蟻喂伪 纬喂伪 蟿畏谓 喂蟽蟿慰蟻喂伪, 魏伪喂 蟿慰 伪位位慰 渭喂蟽蠈 蠀蟺蔚蟻 蟿慰蠀 伪纬伪蟺畏渭蔚谓慰蠀 巍慰胃, 伪蠀蟿慰蠉 蟿慰蠀 蟺蟻慰尾慰魏维蟿慰蟻伪, 蟿慰蠀 伪喂蟻蔚蟿喂魏慰蠉, 蟿慰蠀 尉蔚未喂伪谓蟿蟻慰蟺慰蠀, 蟿慰蠀 蔚蠀蠁蠀慰蠉蟼, 蟿慰蠀 苇魏蠁蠀位慰蠀 - 慰蟺慰蠀 蟿伪 蟺伪谓蟿伪 蟺蔚蟻喂蟽蟿蟻蔚蠁慰谓蟿伪喂 纬蠀蟻蠅 伪蟺慰 蟿慰 蟽蔚尉 魏伪喂 蟿伪 蟺伪谓蟿伪 蔚喂谓伪喂 蟽蔚尉, 渭' 蔚谓伪谓 蟽蠀渭尾慰位喂蟽渭慰 魏伪喂 渭喂伪 蟺蟻蠅蟿慰纬慰谓蠈蟿畏蟿伪 桅蟻慰蠇未喂魏慰蠉 蟿蠉蟺慰蠀.
韦慰 蠄蠀蠂伪谓伪位蠀蟿喂魏蠈 蔚蟻纬慰 螤蠈蟻蟿谓慰蠆, 蔚喂谓伪喂 蔚谓伪蟼 渭慰谓慰位慰纬慰蟼 蟽伪蟻魏伪蟽蟿喂魏慰蟼 - 魏伪蟿 伪蟻蠂伪蟼 伪蠀蟿慰蟽伪蟻魏伪蟽蟿喂魏慰蟼 - 蟺慰蠀 尉蔚魏喂谓伪 伪蟺慰 蟿慰 伪蟿慰渭慰 螒位蔚尉伪谓蟿蔚蟻 螤慰蟻蟿谓慰蠆 魏伪喂 蔚蟺蔚魏蟿蔚喂谓蔚蟿伪喂 蟽蟿慰谓 螘尾蟻伪喂慰 螤慰蟻蟿谓慰蠆, 蔚尉伪蟺位蠅谓蔚蟿伪喂 蟽蟿慰谓 伪谓蟿蟻伪 螤慰蟻蟿谓慰蠆 魏伪喂 魏伪位蠀蟺蟿蔚喂 慰位畏 蟿畏谓 伪谓胃蟻蠅蟺慰蟿畏蟿伪 伪蟺慰 蟿慰谓 魏伪胃蔚 螤慰蟻蟿谓慰蠆 蟺慰蠀 蔚蠂慰蠀渭蔚 慰位慰喂, 位喂纬慰 蔚蠅蟼 蟺慰位蠉, 渭蔚蟽伪 渭伪蟼.

螝伪胃蔚 伪谓蔚喂蟺蠅蟿畏 蟽魏蔚蠄畏, 魏伪胃蔚 未喂伪蟽蟿蟻慰蠁萎, 魏伪胃蔚 魏蟻蠀蠁畏 蔚蟺喂胃蠀渭喂伪, 魏伪胃蔚 蟺伪蟻伪蟺慰谓慰 伪蟺慰 蟿畏 渭伪谓伪 渭伪蟼, 魏伪胃蔚 位伪谓胃伪蟽渭蔚谓慰 蟺蟻慰蟿蠀蟺慰 伪蟺慰 蟿慰谓 蟺伪蟿苇蟻伪 渭伪蟼, 蠈,蟿喂 味畏蟽伪渭蔚 渭喂魏蟻慰喂 魏伪喂 伪谓伪蟺伪蟻伪纬慰蠀渭蔚 蟿蟻伪纬喂魏维 魏伪喂 渭伪蟼 魏伪胃慰蟻喂味蔚喂 蟿畏 味蠅畏, 魏伪喂 渭伪蟼 魏伪蟿伪蟽蟿蟻伪蠁蔚喂 蟿畏 味蠅畏.

螠蔚 蟿慰 蟿蟻慰渭蔚蟻慰 蔚蠀蟻畏渭伪 蟿畏蟼 蔚尉慰渭慰位慰纬畏蟽畏蟼 蟽蟿慰谓 蠄蠀蠂伪谓伪位蠀蟿畏 蟿慰蠀, 未喂魏伪喂慰位慰纬蔚喂 魏伪胃蔚 蟿伪渭蟺慰蠀 蟺慰蠀 魏伪蟿伪蟻蟻喂蟺蟿蔚喂 魏伪喂 魏伪胃蔚 蟽魏慰蟿蔚喂谓萎 蔚尉慰渭慰位慰纬畏蟽畏 蟺慰蠀 蟽慰魏伪蟻蔚喂 魏伪喂 魏伪胃蔚 蟺慰位喂蟿喂魏伪位蠀 喂谓魏慰蟻蟻蔚魏蟿谓蔚蟼 蟺慰蠀 未蔚 胃伪 蟺蟻蔚蟺蔚 谓伪 位蔚蠂胃蔚喂 未畏渭慰蟽喂伪.
螘纬蠅 胃伪蠀渭伪味蠅 蟿慰谓 巍慰胃 魏伪喂 纬喂 伪蠀蟿慰 蟿慰 蠂伪蟻伪魏蟿畏蟻喂蟽蟿喂魏蠈 蟿慰蠀: 螡伪 蟽慰蠀 蟺蔚蟿伪蔚喂 蟽蟿伪 渭慰蠀蟿蟻伪 蟿慰谓 蟺蟻伪纬渭伪蟿喂魏蠈 伪谓胃蟻蠅蟺慰, 渭蔚 魏伪胃蔚 蟿慰蠀 伪蟿蔚位蔚喂伪 魏伪喂 谓蔚蠀蟻蠅蟽畏, 谓伪 蟽慰蠀 蟺蔚蟿伪蔚喂 蟽蟿伪 渭慰蠀蟿蟻伪 蟿慰谓 蔚伪蠀蟿慰 蟽慰蠀 魏伪喂 谓伪 蟽慰蠀 位蔚蔚喂, 谓伪 魏喂 蔚蟽蠀 蔚蟿蟽喂 蔚喂蟽伪喂, 伪蟺慰未蔚尉慰蠀 魏伪喂 蟿喂蟼 蟽魏慰蟿蔚喂谓蔚蟼 蟽慰蠀 纬蠅谓喂苇蟼.
韦慰谓 胃伪蠀渭伪味蠅 魏伪喂 纬喂伪蟿喂 纬蟻伪蠁蔚喂 渭蔚 蟿畏 蠁蠀蟽喂魏慰蟿畏蟿伪 蟺慰蠀 伪谓伪蟺谓苇蔚喂, 蠂蠅蟻喂蟼 谓伪 伪蟺慰魏蟻蠀蟺蟿蔚喂 魏伪喂 蠂蠅蟻喂蟼 谓伪 位慰纬慰魏蟻喂谓蔚喂 蟿慰 蟺伪蟻伪渭喂魏蟻慰 伪蟺慰 蟿喂蟼 蟽魏蔚蠄蔚喂蟼 蟿慰蠀 - 慰位蔚蟼, 渭 蔚谓伪 蠂伪蟻伪魏蟿畏蟻喂蟽蟿喂魏慰 危蠀谓未蟻蠈渭慰蠀 韦慰蠀蟻蔚蟿 蟽蠂蔚未慰谓, 伪蟺慰蟿蠀蟺蠅谓慰谓蟿伪喂 蔚蟿蟽喂 慰蟺蠅蟼 蔚喂谓伪喂. 螒未喂伪谓蟿蟻慰蟺伪 蟽蟿慰 蠁蠅蟼.

螣 巍慰胃 蔚喂谓伪喂 韦螣 蠂伪渭蔚谓慰 螡慰渭蟺蔚位 螞慰纬慰蟿蔚蠂谓喂伪蟼, 未蔚 胃伪 蟽蟿伪渭伪蟿畏蟽蠅 谓伪 蟿慰 位蔚蠅, 蟿慰蟿蔚 蟺慰蠀 蟺畏纬伪谓 慰喂 危慰蠀畏未慰喂 谓伪 蟿慰 蟺伪喂尉慰蠀谓蔚 魏慰蠀位 蟺蟻慰纬魏蟻蔚蟽喂尾 魏伪喂 蟿慰 未蠅蟽伪谓蔚 蟽蟿慰谓 螠蟺慰渭蟺 螡蟿蠀位伪谓 纬喂伪 蟿慰蠀蟼 蟽蟿喂蠂慰蠀蟼 蟿蠅谓 蟿蟻伪纬慰蠀未喂蠅谓 蟿慰蠀 - 魏伪喂 慰 螡蟿蠀位伪谓 未蔚谓 蟺畏纬蔚 魏伪谓 蟽蟿畏谓 伪蟺慰谓慰渭畏-
渭蟺慰蟻蔚喂 谓伪 蔚蠂蔚喂 伪谓伪纬谓蠅蟽蟿蔚蟼 蟺慰蠀 蟿慰谓 尾伪蟻喂慰蠀谓蟿伪喂, 蟺慰蠀 蟿慰谓 渭伪蠂慰谓蟿伪喂, 蟺慰蠀 蟿慰谓 位蔚谓蔚 蟽蔚尉喂蟽蟿畏, 蟽蔚尉慰渭伪谓畏, 蔚渭渭慰谓喂魏蠈 - 蠈渭蠅蟼 魏喂 慰位伪 伪蠀蟿维 纬喂伪 谓伪 蟿伪 伪蟺慰魏伪位蠀蠄蔚喂蟼, 魏伪喂 谓伪 蟿伪 未蠅蟽蔚喂蟼 螠 螘螡螒螡 韦螘韦螣螜螣 韦巍螣螤螣 蠀蠄畏位畏蟼 位慰纬慰蟿蔚蠂谓喂伪蟼 蟽蟿慰 蠂伪蟻蟿喂 魏伪喂 蟽蟿畏 未畏渭慰蟽喂慰蟿畏蟿伪 魏伪喂 蟽蟿慰谓 魏蠈蟽渭慰 - 伪蠀蟿慰 蠂伪蟻伪魏蟿畏蟻喂味蔚喂 蔚谓伪谓 蟺蟻蠅蟿慰蟺慰蟻慰 魏伪位位喂蟿苇蠂谓畏.
螝伪喂 魏伪蟺慰喂伪 魏蟻喂蟿畏蟻喂伪 蟿蔚蠂谓畏蟼 蔚喂谓伪喂 伪谓蟿喂魏蔚喂渭蔚谓喂魏维. 螝伪喂 慰 巍慰胃 蟿伪 蟺位畏蟻慰委 慰位伪.

"螘蠀蟿蠀蠂蠋蟼, 畏蟿伪谓 蟿慰蟽畏 畏 伪纬伪谓维魏蟿畏蟽萎 渭慰蠀, 蟺慰蠀 渭' 伪蠁畏蟽蔚 维谓伪蠀未慰. 螤蠋蟼 萎蟿伪谓 未蠀谓伪蟿蠈谓 谓伪 谓喂蠋胃蠅 蟺位畏纬萎 蟽' 蔚谓伪 蟽畏渭蔚喂慰 慰蟺慰蠀 未蔚谓 萎渭慰蠀谓 魏伪谓 蟿蟻蠅蟿蠈蟼; 螖蠀慰 蟺蟻维纬渭伪蟿伪 蟽蟿慰谓 魏蠈蟽渭慰 蔚谓未喂苇蠁蔚蟻伪谓 位喂纬慰蟿蔚蟻慰 蟿畏谓 螝苇喂 魏喂 蔚渭苇谓伪: 蟺蟻蠋蟿慰谓, 蟿伪 位蔚蠁蟿维. 未蔚蠀蟿蔚蟻慰谓, 畏 胃蟻畏蟽魏蔚委伪. 螒纬伪蟺畏渭苇谓慰蟼 渭伪蟼 蠁喂位蠈蟽慰蠁慰蟼 萎蟿伪谓 慰 螠蟺蔚蟻谓伪谓蟿 巍维蟽蟽蔚位. 螛蟻畏蟽魏蔚委伪 渭伪蟼 畏蟿伪谓 畏 胃蟻畏蟽魏蔚委伪 蟿慰蠀 螡蟿委位伪谓 韦蠈渭伪蟼, 畏 螒位萎胃蔚喂伪, 畏 围伪蟻维! 韦伪 蟺伪喂未喂伪 渭伪蟼 胃伪 蟿伪谓 维胃蔚伪"
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August 13, 2016
Hey, Roth! What鈥檚 with the smug smile on that face of yours? What鈥檚 with that satisfied look? You think you鈥檙e now a goy or something? Are you thinking of a shikse or something? Are you high? You think just because you wrote a bunch of anti-semitic, auto-erotic stuff you鈥檙e some bigshot? What鈥檚 the sense with that piece of crap? Don鈥檛 you dare turn your back on me you balding Kike! You wanker! You kosher prick! You鈥� oh, where鈥檚 the sense in this? Come on, mate. Is this really just to ridicule society? What鈥檚 the gist, the point, the essence? To say things which nobody has said before? Is it just anger, contempt? Sure, I get the whole defy the boundaries of society thing, to be rid of the cultural standards and stuff. Freedom from the restrictive paradigm! I get it, I do. Fuck society. Fuck culture, marriage, family, democracy, capitalism, sexual-restraint. Fuck them all! But is it just that? Why go through all the girlfriends? I bet that鈥檚 boasting there, Philip. Just because you had cunt doesn鈥檛 mean we wanna hear about it. All you did was give me a boner in some parts. That wasn鈥檛 a very nice thing to do given all the whining coming with it. You鈥檙e an asshole, Roth! You鈥檙e worse. You鈥檙e thinking of doing perverse stuff to your own Mother! That鈥檚 going beyond the oedipal tendencies, bud. Are you suggesting that we should practice incest because fuck the society? Incest because fuck the law? You motherfucker! That鈥檚 gross, man. Is that the point? What about all that wanking? Is is just to make me wanna wank myself? Well, you succeeded mate. I may have wanked somewhere in between reading your book. Satisfied, Roth? You corrupted a youth. If someone catches me doing the deed, Imma tell them I learned it from the venerated Philip Roth. But I鈥檓 telling you, you didn鈥檛 succeed with that whole incest thing. You stay out of my family! And really the liver? You thought up that it should be fed to a family? I bet you did that in real life. What is this semi-autobiographical? Because I鈥檓 telling ya, some things here were a little too graphic to be made up. Come on, bud. Say it. I did all this when I was younger. There鈥檚 a good boy. So you just wanted to share life experiences, eh? No? Then what is it? Ah, I think I鈥檝e got it. Now, Phil. Mind if I call you Phil? So is this really just another Catcher in the Rye, except you know, you have crazy substituting the teenage angst here. Is it really just I鈥檓 too good for you stuff? Just another anarchy dude, another all that 鈥渕y life, my rules鈥� crap. The world鈥檚 your oyster kid. Joke鈥檚 on you, it鈥檚 not. What鈥檚 with all the sexual stuff? To prove that sex is a natural instinct and shouldn鈥檛 be so shameful? Sure, that鈥檚 pretty good. But is that all? Defy life, sex is normal. Is that it? Bullshit, Phil! You may be a chronic-wanker, but you鈥檙e not stupid enough to write a book about this stuff. This is all movie crap. This is the bread and butter of scriptwriters, not novelists. You鈥檝e got more pride than that. You鈥檝e won a Pulitzer for cryin out loud! Why write this? What are you trying to tell me? Why all the babble! Are you a Nazi? Are you trying to justify the holocaust? What is with this book? Is it to make me be a better man? Is it supposed to show the inadequacies of my complaints, the shallowness of it all? Are you using reverse psychology?! It won鈥檛 work, boyo. We gentiles are a smarter breed than you give us credit for. You cunt! You sexist, racist, homophobic son of a woman. Are you trying to show us the thoughts of the superior Caucasian man? Hehe! Now I鈥檓 the racist one. Sorry, Phil. Didn鈥檛 mean to hurt ya there. But I鈥檓 still stumped here. What鈥檚 the big picture? What鈥檚 it saying to me? Libido is libertarian? I guess I can work with that. Hahaha! Wait, humor won鈥檛 work here, Phil. You wrote and book and I read it. You have to answer me here. No, you don鈥檛 have the right to remain silent. No, you can鈥檛 invoke your right to self-incrimination. Say it! Open up! Spill the beans! Let the cat out of the bag! Try to see the big picture, you say? Ah! I see! It鈥檚 in the punch-line! What, no comment? So it鈥檚 about the doctor. I get it now, sonny. You thought that you freed yourself from the chains of society. You broke everything, you howled! You didn鈥檛 give a crap about anything. Heck, you even tore the tag off the mattress! But really, you weren鈥檛 freed. The fact that you were talking to a shrink proved that you thought something was wrong with you. You say you didn鈥檛 give a shit, but you put yourself under observation. You say you lived big, but you confined yourself with a mental-health professional. You were under invisible chains, your freedom was an illusion. Why the silence now, Phil? Say something. What? I鈥檓 confusing you with Portnoy? But you wrote it, mate. Doesn鈥檛 that sort of identify you with the protagonist? What? I鈥檓 an asshole? Alright, whatever. You鈥檙e the man. I鈥檓 just saying, freedom from societal-norms is an illusion. Sometimes, all we can do is complain. Am I right, Phil?
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